A.V. Club's best films of the '00s

Rick Derris · **Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:11 pm

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Senator Ba HumGAR Wrote:

Chris - Traffic isn't on the list because its not a very well made, entertaining, or even thought provoking movie.

I found it quite good at the time but haven't seen it since...I do have a feeling that any scene involving Michael Douglas would be cringe-inducing bad when watched now.

I think it's a tad overrated but I couldn't disagree more with Loog's assesment.

paper · **Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:15 pm

Traffic is really good.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 3:31 pm

Rick Derris Wrote:

shiv Wrote:

zodiac was a bit too long but i really like it. i'm surprised the scene in the basement of the guy's house didn't make it to av club's best scenes list.

Agree with all this. The running time is 2 hours 40 minutes. Probably could've cut about 30 minutes but then again, the long, drawn out nature of it kind of fit since it takes place over such a long period of time.

Great movie. Really captured the terror that the killer cast over the city. IMO, ranks with Fincher's best work.

Ben, you do much better when you have your opinions spoon fed to you like this:

Rick Derris Wrote:

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Senator Ba HumGAR Wrote:

Chris - Traffic isn't on the list because its not a very well made, entertaining, or even thought provoking movie.

I found it quite good at the time but haven't seen it since...I do have a feeling that any scene involving Michael Douglas would be cringe-inducing bad when watched now.

I think it's a tad overrated but I couldn't disagree more with Loog's assesment.

I would rate Fight Club, Se7en, and even The Game 1000 rungs up the ladder from Zodiac. I guess if you consider Alien 3 Fincher's best work, it would rate with it.

Now tell us how much you liked the humanity and the love story from Brokeback Mountain, so it allowed you to overlook (i.e. jack off to) the sex scenes.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:39 pm

Just realized "Amelie" and "Primer" aren't even on that list. Fail.

toots · **Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:42 pm

leaving out amelie was a mistake for sure

juries out on primer. made my brain hurt

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:45 pm

Silent Toot Wrote:

juries out on primer. made my brain hurt

How about replacing it with "Sexy Beast" then?

toots · **Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:50 pm

i've not seen it, but the plot summary looks more compelling than 90 minutes of two nerds clone-spotting

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 4:51 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

Silent Toot Wrote:

juries out on primer. made my brain hurt

How about replacing it with "Sexy Beast" then?

Is that animated, have a twee soundtrack, or can be described in any way as meta?

Sorry, disqualified.

Z · **Joined:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:38 pm **Posts:** 7979

is sexy beast really anything more than a run-of-the-mill heist film with two great acting performances? i haven't seen it since the theater; haven't been inclined to. great use of "peaches", though.

i'm somewhat surprised by some omissions like amores perros and the proposition.

FT · **Posted:** Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:00 pm

WALL-E should be top 10, if not top 5.

mcaputo · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:59 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

How about replacing it with "Sexy Beast" then?

I own it. Great film.

mcaputo · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:03 pm

Z Wrote:

i'm somewhat surprised by some omissions like amores perros

another great film

mcaputo · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:09 pm

seafoam Wrote:

No Irreversible. I'm a little surprised.

It has two of the most difficult scenes ever put to film.

One - where he murders "the wrong guy"

Two - the rape scene

Surprisingly good ending

mcaputo · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:10 pm

Pffttt - "History of Violence" was a pile of dogshit.

No Dancer In The Dark is just wrong. One of the most depresssing movies I've ever seen.

OPA! · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:52 pm

I suspect they decided to just include a few foreign films, most likely the ones that made Hollywood studios money. If they had included foreign films without bias, at least half of that list would be non-English speaking movies.

Where are Amelie, Irreversible, The Piano Teacher, Amores Perros, The Motorcycle Diaries, A Very Long Engagement, etc.?

OPA! · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:54 pm

mcaputo Wrote:

seafoam Wrote:

No Irreversible. I'm a little surprised.

It has two of the most difficult scenes ever put to film.

One - where he murders "the wrong guy"

Two - the rape scene

Surprisingly good ending

The funny thing is, I totally missed that he killed the wrong guy. It wasn't until I watched it a second time that I noticed it.

paper · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:58 pm

A few that haven't been mentioned that deserve consideration for a top 50

In America
Man On Wire
Oh Brother Where Art Thou
Unbreakable
The Lives of Others
Shaun of The Dead
Gomorrah

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:59 pm

paper Wrote:

A few that haven't been mentioned that deserve consideration for a top 50

Unbreakable

The Night Shamalamadingdong flick with Sam Jackson? That could be the worst movie I've ever seen. Also, I think it came out in 99?

Good call on Motorcycle Diaries, OPA! -- that was a really well done and enjoyable movie.

OPA! · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:01 pm

paper Wrote:

A few that haven't been mentioned that deserve consideration for a top 50

In America
Man On Wire
Oh Brother Where Art Thou
Unbreakable
The Lives of Others
Shaun of The Dead
Gomorrah

The Lives of Others should've been Top 10 easy.

paper · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:03 pm

Senator Ba HumGAR Wrote:

paper Wrote:

A few that haven't been mentioned that deserve consideration for a top 50

Unbreakable

The Night Shamalamadingdong flick with Sam Jackson? That could be the worst movie I've ever seen. Also, I think it came out in 99?

yeah, it was 2000.

whatever, I thought it was M. Night's best movie...not surprised you hated it.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:23 pm

paper Wrote:

Senator Ba HumGAR Wrote:

paper Wrote:

A few that haven't been mentioned that deserve consideration for a top 50

Unbreakable

The Night Shamalamadingdong flick with Sam Jackson? That could be the worst movie I've ever seen. Also, I think it came out in 99?

yeah, it was 2000.

whatever, I thought it was M. Night's best movie...not surprised you hated it.

Because it was terrible? and you poop eating comic freaks like everything spoon fed to you? Holy FUCK that movie sucked.

DEY CALLED ME MISTAHHH GLAAAAAHHHSS!

paper · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:30 pm

just for the record I could care less about comics.

OPA! · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:57 pm

I didn't like Unbreakable but I can see how others would.

toots · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:42 pm

OPA! Wrote:

I suspect they decided to just include a few foreign films, most likely the ones that made Hollywood studios money. If they had included foreign films without bias, at least half of that list would be non-English speaking movies.

Where are Amelie, Irreversible, The Piano Teacher, Amores Perros, The Motorcycle Diaries, A Very Long Engagement, etc.?

ive not seen the three in bold, but imo, a very long engagement was essentially amelie redux and the motorcycle diaries was basically a 2 hour paul harvey segment...i.e. "and that little boy...grew up to be...CHE GUEVARA

Leon · **Posted:** Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:56 pm

Looking at this list made me realize what a great decade this was for movies, regardless of which ones do and do not belong. That being said Waking Life does not belong on the list, one of the most boring things I've ever seen.

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