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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:46 pm 
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The current BCS TV contract is worth 125 Million a year with ESPN having it until 2014. I just don't see how it can go up enough to pay out more than the 36 million that the SEC gets for two games this year when they would have to share cash with the Sun Belt conference.
I see you guys viewpoint, I just have my doubts.


The SEC's own TV contracts with ESPN and CBS pay $17-20 million per TEAM per YEAR: I'm pretty sure they'd be fine.

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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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UGA is unranked and playing in a bowl game. We'll sell out our alottment of tickets for the game and I will certainly be watching the game. If the scenario in the article was in place, UGA wouldn't be sniffing the tournament (much like we aren't sniffing a Championship these days) but guess what, I would still be watching that "bowl game" outside of the playoff and we'd still sell our alottment of tix and travel to the game. You're telling me there is no value in that?

How do you figure schools would see less profit than playing in a New Years bowl? You don't think sponsors won't be falling all over themselves to be the "National Semi-Final Game presented by Tostitos!" If you build it they will come and the payouts would be bigger than ever IMO.


As a matter of fact, I would watch that Cincy/CM game for the exact reasons he lays out in the article; for the drama. The David and Goliath storyline. Not to mention that CM's only two losses came against Boston College and Arizona and they BEAT Michigan St..Any given Saturday man.


No, I was actually arguing that the value in the bowl system still probably exceeds the playoffs in all ways, thus why a mediocre Georgia team wouldn't be too broken up about missing out on a playoff if they still got bowl cash.
I personally don't think they payouts will be bigger based on the NCAA March Madness payouts and sponsorship versus travel cost and having to share the money equally with all 11 conferences. If the sponsors are going to be clamoring for sponsorship of the Semi-Final, are they really going to continue to sponsor their lowly bowl. Also what company really wants to sponsor the first round of the FBS playoffs, if they can pair up with the rival network of the playoffs for lesser cash to broadcast a few marquee bowl games?
You would also expect the playoffs to maintain a rule that states only two teams per conference can possibly make the playoff, or at least require at large teams to make their title game.



I mean, this is all speculation really but I couldn't disagree more with what you're saying.

Yeah it'll be nice to get a million dollar payout from the Independence bowl but we're talking about a 4 round National playoff. You think the first round is going to pay out less than a million per team? I'd wager
that it'd start at 3-4 million. Again, this is all speculation and I don't know how they would do it but I PROMISE you that the money would be there.

I don't think the NCAA tourney comparison is apt because football is much bigger in the grand scheme in this country and generates a shitload more revenue than basketball.

As for sponsorship, companies will sponsors anything they can get their hands on. As someone who used to sponsor events in the cycling world, I can say that promoters will sell you anything to get a company to pay to put their logo on it. I mean, did you watch the game on NFL Network on Thanksgiving night? They had a pre-game show sponsored by "XYZ" and then they literally had a "pre-kick" segment that was sponsored by "XYZ" that lasted all of 3 minutes.

For a CFB playoff I think the games would be only available to the Nissan's, AT&T's, and Verizon's of the world who could afford to put up the kind of money this would pull.

For the "lowly" bowls they could keep the Advocare 100's going. That's the Independence Bowl's sponsor and I have no idea what they do.


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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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Yail Bloor Wrote:
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The current BCS TV contract is worth 125 Million a year with ESPN having it until 2014. I just don't see how it can go up enough to pay out more than the 36 million that the SEC gets for two games this year when they would have to share cash with the Sun Belt conference.
I see you guys viewpoint, I just have my doubts.


The SEC's own TV contracts with ESPN and CBS pay $17-20 million per TEAM per YEAR: I'm pretty sure they'd be fine.


Also, it can ALWAYS go up.

Hell, I checked and the Fiesta, for example, paid out 23 million to be split with the teams in 1999.

Tens short years later, it's up to 36 million.


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Jim Harbaugh and Brian Kelly are both interviewing with Notre Dame, and supposedly Houston Nutt is being wooed by Kansas.


I heard Turner Gill was getting the KU gig.

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Jim Harbaugh and Brian Kelly are both interviewing with Notre Dame, and supposedly Houston Nutt is being wooed by Kansas.


I heard Turner Gill was getting the KU gig.


He definitely interviewed for the job, and would be the front runner if Lew Perkins and Nutt can't settle on a dollar mark, but Lew, Bill Self and Houston have a history together that makes him the true front runner.
Plus, Turner is a black man, and I still think that is a strong handicap in the hiring world of college football coaching.

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I think you can probably cross Pro-Choice, Democrat, Gary Hart worker Brian Kelly off Notre DANE's list: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/sport ... .html?_r=1

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Awesome. haha. I'm surprised this city likes him so much.


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Former UGA safety and current BAMA D-Coordinator, Kirby Smart, has won the Broyles Award for the top assistant coach in the NCAA FBS


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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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Former UGA safety and current BAMA D-Coordinator, Kirby Smart, has won the Broyles Award for the top assistant coach in the NCAA FBS


He's a deserving winner after the SEC Title game. I was hoping Carl Pelini would be a finalist, since he's taken one the worst defenses in the country to a top ten defense in two years, all while doing it with very little offensive support this season, but most people probably give his younger brother most of the credit.

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I think you can probably cross Pro-Choice, Democrat, Gary Hart worker Brian Kelly off Notre DANE's list: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/17/sport ... .html?_r=1


It still doesn't seem to be much of a factor, as they appear to be in negotiations now according to ESPN College Football Live.
That might not mean much, since the ESPN experts poll still doesn't have Suh in the top five of Heisman vote getters.

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The Notre Dame coaching vacancy is rumored to be "wrapped up in a few days." (And Kelly's twitter account has been hacked.) This doesn't look good for my team. :(


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Houston Nutt will not pursue the KU Job now, so I'm guessing another former Nebraska assistant will be coaching against the Huskers for a few years.

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Promethium Wrote:
[ I was hoping Carl Pelini would be a finalist, since he's taken one the worst defenses in the country to a top ten defense in two years, all while doing it with very little offensive support this season, but most people probably give his younger brother most of the credit.


After their display of poor sportsmanship following the game the other night, I'm not sure the Pellini Boys are endearing themselves to many voters.

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I couldn't get this to post in the size it's in on the blog I found it on but it's too big to post in normal size.

Pretty good.

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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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[ I was hoping Carl Pelini would be a finalist, since he's taken one the worst defenses in the country to a top ten defense in two years, all while doing it with very little offensive support this season, but most people probably give his younger brother most of the credit.


After their display of poor sportsmanship following the game the other night, I'm not sure the Pellini Boys are endearing themselves to many voters.


To be fair, they never publicly displayed poor sportsmanship. All of their outrage was initially reported by Nebraska reporters from the tunnel outside the locker room and within the locker room. Bo Pelini was nothing but cordial during his post game press conference and refused to comment on the controversy, he also voted Texas #1 on his coaches poll ballot. It's not like the Big 12 had to threaten him with a fine, they actually had to come out and justify why they made a call that went against their own rule book.
Bo Pelini's behavior has been rightfully called into question after last year's Virginia Tech game and the K-State and Michigan State games in 2003, but on Saturday he displayed Osborne like calm and kept his player's in check.
Plus, the finalist for the award were named before the Big 12 Title game.

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Suh was on the Husker Sports Nightly radio show tonight and said that he considered transferring to Oregon State after the Callahan staff got canned, but decided to give Pelini a chance.

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Florida just lost their defensive coordinator.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091209/ap_ ... lle_strong
I'm liking UC's coach-less team's chances a little more each day. ;)

Kelly is rumored to announce tomorrow at the team banquet that he is leaving (or staying).


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The Kirby Smart to UGA rumors must have been a bit premature.

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Senator Ba HumGAR Wrote:
The Kirby Smart to UGA rumors must have been a bit premature.



FWIW, I never thought he'd come back home and now, he's THE hot shit coordinator in the country. He may be closer to a head coach job than a lateral move to UGA.

As for Charlie Strong to Louisville, thank god if it happens.

Pro: Meyer, along with Richt, will now also have to find a new D-coordinator. Ours will certainly be an upgrade. Tough to say if UF can upgrade over Strong.

Con: UGA has the "Ville on our schedule in 2011 and 2012.


RE:Smart:

Then again, he could just be playing possum to keep the focus on the title game. Doubtful though.


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Also, STEWG?

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Also, STEWG?

B-day? Today?


I think it was Monday, FAIL.

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