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I mean seriously, how sick is this?!?!


And yeah, that's George Harrison's kid standing behind Prince, with the acoustic; having his mind blown along with everyone else. I mean, his dad was a Beatle, and even he is in awe of the little man.

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I saw that the other night. Pretty crazy.


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Bill Janovitz (Buffalo Tom) wrote this about this very solo in his blog:
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What you see here until about the 3:30 minute mark is a perfectly serviceable and respectful cover version of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps," a tribute to George Harrison. You have the studied aloofness of Tom Petty, sleepwalking through the vocals and acoustic strumming. You have Jeff Lynne doing his part perfectly reasonably, thankfully unable to weigh the song down with goofy backing vocals and other shit he piles on when he is in a studio. You have Stevie Winwood -- arguably the most soulful Englishman next to Jagger, Rod Stewart (and who else?) -- on the B-3 organ. You see the latest incarnation of the Heartbreakers being what they have always been: one of the greatest backing bands of all time, Petty's not-so secret weapon. And you have Dhani Harrison, George's son, strumming along.

And there is the guy in the cap, aping, note-for-note, Eric Clapton's original solos from the legendary White Album recording. It took me a bit of searching to figure out that his name is Marc Mann and, as far as I can gather, he is talented enough to be chosen as a sideman/session guitarist Lynne and George at various junctures. Now, you watch and you might think, "cool, he is nailing the bends, the notes, the whole original solo." And the Clapton part was more than just soloing; it was a wholly integrated arrangement for guitar parts. Yet, when it came time for the actual solo, Mr. Mann -- who I am sure is quite capable of striking out with his own improvised solo -- makes a respectful choice to play the parts Clapton laid down. Totally fine, if forgettable. And unnecessary.

Then you notice the pimp-hatted Prince playing sideman on stage left. But he seems like a loaded gun with a hair trigger. And sure enough, around the 3:25 mark, you see Dhani -- who should never play poker (take it from someone who knows) -- unable to stifle a grin; he has an idea of what is coming.

And sure enough, the soloing, the song, perhaps the whole night is then turned over to Prince, who in the last few years (for me) has made the argument that he is the greatest lead guitar player since Hendrix. He is truly heir to Jimi. As we all know. Hendrix revolutionized lead guitar playing. And he did so without the benefit of some of the technological advances made since his death, stuff like intricately balanced distortion pedals and other devices that are made to harness the sort of feedback and sustain that Jimi, Townshend, et. al. had to rein in by manipulating volume controls and primitive distortion stomp boxes before their signal reached ridiculously loud tube (valve) Marshall and Hiwatt amps.

So Prince has the benefit of a few more devices to exercise a bit more control, but it really does not matter much; what made Hendrix's playing so distinct was his laying it all out there, performing without a net, taking chances that only bop and post-bop jazz guys were taking, and doing so at massive volume, so that he in turn influenced the most forward-thinking of jazz cats like Miles Davis.

And here, in one single performance, Prince comes on like an atom bomb and levels the place, destroys everything in his path, devastates the stage and the players. He performs at a whole different level. He goes out there with no regard for tradition, for the original solos; no, he goes out there and shreds it, putting his own stamp on the song, and in doing so, shines up an otherwise dull rendition. He brings out the best of the song. He takes it to new place, while leaving the rest of the band to keep one foot in the original. As such, he pays the greatest respect to the song, its author, and to Clapton's original sign posts pointing the way to the potential.

While the rest of the band, the old guys, all kind of lay back and play it cool, keeping the song grounded -- to the point of keeping every backing vocal part in place ("look at you all.......still my guitar gently weeeeeeeeps") -- Dhani's face is aglow. He looks around at the other guys with a sort of "can you fucking believe this?!" expression, hoping to make eye contact and get some acknowledgment and musical communion. He seems to get no such feedback from the grizzly old dinosaurs. Dhani is our -- and George's -- stand in and representative. He is there to express what we sitting at home feel: "Holy Mother of God! Is this not one of the greatest virtuoso guitar solos of the past couple of decades?!" Dhani is quoted at this Beatles fan site, "Harrison concludes by stating that he doesn't like music that pulls its punches. 'All the records I like are hardcore. Bob Dylan is the hardest core of the core. Air are chilled out, but they're hardcore musicians. U Srinivas is a hardcore dude from Madras. Leadbelly? He killed a man! Enough said!'"

I've never been a big fan of basketball, but one of the only analogies that springs to mind is that of a perfectly average team of aging pros all of a sudden spiked with a young Michael Jordan or LeBron James; a superstar who opens the game up to spectacle; someone who is so comfortable in his own skin, with Zen-like presence in the moment and absence of extraneous thought and second-guessing. They rise above all the other players, but lift the whole team up to a new level. Sure, there are other players who are jealous and resentful. But then there are players like Dhani, who are playing without ego and who appreciate being in the presence of greatness.

OK, some (likely some of the guys on stage) might just shrink from this and see Prince as showboating. And the way Prince just struts -- struts -- offstage after his seemingly pre-rigged guitar just swoops up and disappears above the stage - surely indicates the same sort of arrogance displayed by Jordan when he would refer to teammates as "my supporting cast." But for Jordan, the ball was just an extension of his hands and he was one with the whole court. For Prince, it is the guitar and the stage. He is not composing the solos before he plays them; it is all one subconscious stream. He has tapped in. These are the great ones.

Others might claim, "sacrilege!" for messing around with Clapton's original solo, as old timers who watched and idolized Bob Cousy might claim that the game should be about passing and set shots. And I would agree that Clapton's solos are perfect for the song: the weeping, the tasteful use of bending strings as displays of sorrow. But that's been done. That recording is over 40 years old and has been played somewhere every day of those subsequent years. Now George is gone, and the world is even more in need of "sweeping." George sang, against hope, "with every mistake we must surely be learning." Prince is the post-modern answer; as Stevie sang, "Telling us how you are changing right from wrong/'Cause if your really want to hear our views/You haven't done nothing."

So Prince takes up where Clapton and Harrison left off, changing the weeping to the outright gnashing of teeth, moaning, yelling and raging. He performs without fear, though, without the net, as he went on to do in the also-legendary performance on SNL a few years later, of the song "Fury."

The rest of the band should have kicked up some dust, as well. But they are just guys in suits playing for other old guys in suits; the worst of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame concept; by its very existence, the HOF fossilizes vital music. Crusty rockers content with their place in the lineage. It is, arguably, a place that had a hard time making space for someone like Prince, who defies categorization. The performance is from 2004, the year that both Prince and George (posthumously, as a solo artist) were inducted into the Hall. It feels like Prince is out to prove he can outrock any straight-up "rock" artist. He is the rightful heir to the Hendrix mantle. I choose him over Stevie Ray. You heard me. Any day of the week.

I think George would approve of the new take on the song. Many, if not most, of his songs had the conscience of eastern thought running through them. LSD and the Maharishi woke him up in the mid-'60s and he kept on teaching: "All things must pass away"; "Isn't it a pity/Now, isn't it a shame/How we/break each other's hearts/And cause each other pain/How we take each other's love/Without thinking anymore/Forgetting to give back"; "The love you are blessed with/This world's waiting for/So let out your heart, please, please/From behind that locked door"; "Beware of sadness/It can hit you/It can hurt you/Make you sore and what is more/That is not what you are here for."

These are all paraphrases of the teachings of the Buddha and other eastern philosophers. They taught that so much of the negativity in the world is borne out of fear. As a result, most of us live defensively most of the time. Buddha says get back to your original self, who you were, your face before you were born. Everything after that is adding to a mask, a shield, buttressing yourself against the pain and suffering in the world. Open yourself back up. Live in the moment. Realize we are here for a limited time. Don't be afraid of making a fool of yourself. I'm not saying go to work at your office in a pimp suit and strut out of a meeting after making a particularly astute and bold point. But live it up a little. Just ask yourself every once in a while, "what would Prince do here?"

Yeah, I know, now it all seems trite, "dance like no one is watching," and all that Chicken Soup kind of shit. But it's because it is all true: "He not busy being born is busy dying," as Bob Dylan sang.

Almost everyone on that stage with Prince is playing defensively. Prince is busy being born.


Pretty much nails it.

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 Post subject: Re: Prince playing on "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"
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I feel like I've seen prince do better than that. I was nice and all, but not like unbelievable. He's a helluva showman, that's for sure. I feel like his guitar solo was an 8, and his face solo was an 11.

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i made it through half that essay. you could probably just sum it up by saying that prince played it with more attitude and confidence than you'd be likely to hear from anyone else. and he comes off totally genuine, if not entirely self-aware of its awesomeness, and slight affectedness. But yes we all know Prince is capable of better. One of my favourite guitarists for not directly portraying himself as just a guitarist.


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Thread was pointless without embedded video which I added. (hope this doesn't offend you Mr. Todd)

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Thread was pointless without embedded video which I added. (hope this doesn't offend you Mr. Todd)


No offense taken.
Thanks for taking up my slack.

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PopTodd Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
Thread was pointless without embedded video which I added. (hope this doesn't offend you Mr. Todd)


No offense taken. I'm at work and YouTube is blocked, which blocks me from grabbing that embedding code, or I would have done so.
Thanks for taking up my slack.


No probs. If you use the [video][/video] tag you can just post the youtube link without worrying about the embedding link and the magical shiny new board will take care of the rest.

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With a guitar face like that, you know he's got a flow going.

I've always thought Prince was one of the best all-round musicians and performers of his era, I don't think Hendrix comparisons are all that overstated. Even so, I still can't get excited about the vast majority of his recordings. I wish he spent more time writing for the stage than the studio.

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What is this from? At first I thought it was from the recent Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 25th Birthday concert, but it was uploaded in 2007.

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What is this from? At first I thought it was from the recent Rock & Roll Hall of Fame 25th Birthday concert, but it was uploaded in 2007.


It was from "The Concert For George" back in '04.

either that or George's (solo artist) induction into the RnR HOF.

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It's not Conert For George, i don't think. We have (or had) that, the wife loves it, and I don't recall any Prince up in there.

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PopTodd Wrote:

either that or George's (solo artist) induction into the RnR HOF.


i think it was this

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I feel like I've seen prince do better than that. I was nice and all, but not like unbelievable. He's a helluva showman, that's for sure. I feel like his guitar solo was an 8, and his face solo was an 11.


I'm gonna have to agree: That's not even the 50th most impressive thing I've seen/heard Prince do on the geetar.

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It didn't help that the clip was titled something like "The bestest guitar solo evar"

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I'd be all in favor of Prince following in Hendrix's shoes, literally, particularly if he took Lynne out with him.


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This has a pretty ripping solo...and the worst shirt/hair combo in history:

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Sorry..."All Hat and No Cattle" for me, and I ain't Texan. I thought this was the kind of shit Hendrix let out of his bag and couldn't figure out how to get back in.


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Sorry..."All Hat and No Cattle" for me, and I ain't Texan. I thought this was the kind of shit Hendrix let out of his bag and couldn't figure out how to get back in.


I kind of agree with "kind of shit Hendrix let out o the bag," but the Beatles were there constantly opening the bag, others to follow as well. And, Prince weeped it and ripped it. I'd say he did service well. If he were rags in a club jaws would hang even lower.


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That little kid is awesome.

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