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"Roll Over Beethoven"

Blech. That guitar intro is sterile, neutered, and utterly pales next to the real thing. I want to like it, but it feels like a mistake to have included it on this album. Louder! Faster!

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"Hold Me Tight"

Oh fuck yes. This nails that sweet spot, right between sugar and salt. Love the beat, love the claps, the guitar is fucking perfect back there jumping it along with arpeggios, then the breakdowns just remind you what's coming around again as soon as it kicks back in. When we talk about the Beatles earning that reputation at number one, I think of shit like this. Did it even chart? And it slays me. Man this blackberry is a pain in my butthole.

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The chinese employees behind me on this shuttle are probably enjoying my head bobbing / air fretboarding. Fuck it, I'm on the 4th spin of Hold Me Tight and it's got its talons in me.

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"You Really Got A Hold On Me"

GottDamn John's voice excels on this. Completely convincing. Wow.

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"I Wanna Be Your Man"

Meh+. Also reeks of 60's.

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"I Wanna Be Your Man"

Meh+. Also reeks of 60's.


Uh...it was the 60's....

When I listen to early Beatles and hear the occasional softball track I make myself remember who these guys were aiming at, along with their genius marketing team to grow the monster that became The Beatles. Some may not have aged well but those lame tracks kept the grown-ups listening for just a little bit longer to let the kool-aid kick in.


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 Post subject: Re: so I'm going chronological on that Beatles box
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With The Beatles sounds to me like a bit of a holding pattern after Please Please Me although, given the fact that only 7 months separated them, it's not exactly surprising that there isn't much of a sonic difference between the two. This second album seems a little more aggressive and assertive, with a clearer R&B influence to it.

It Won't Be Long
Great call-and-response chorus melded to a workmanlike verse. Good enough, but not good enough.

All I've Got To Do
A Lennon slow-burner, nicely reminiscent of the girl groups he so obviously dug.

All My Loving
Really hard to hear this through the murk of 40 years of over-exposure, but it's a marvel of inevitability - every part of it sounds crucial and essential, and it just flows seemingly effortlessly. This is Lennon/McCartney when they are ON.

Don't Bother Me
Never heard this before. I love the guitar chording going on, and the way the chunky rhythm works with the twang of George's lead. Nice change of tone too - an early harbinger that the band wasn't going to be content to be merely chirpy. Oh shit - just noticed this is the first recorded instance of George as songwriter. Nice.

Little Child
Kind of dull overall, but that rhythm section really pushed it along. Bet it totally jumped live.

Til There Was You
One of the things so apparent in these first two albums is that the Beatles were prepared to throw anything against the wall. There was no rock careerism yet, after all - not even the notion that Chuck Berry himself was anything more than a 2 year trend - so it's understandable that the Beatles were covering all bases. You can hear them try everything: rhythm & blues, rock 'n' roll, skiffle, traces of music hall, and, yes, pure schlock. This song is the schlock. I bet it was a lot of people's favorite track at the time.

Please Mr. Postman
One of those songs that's pretty hard for me to truly like. It's so essentially bubblegum that the Carpenters had a hit with it. But the Beatles attack it with their overt love of the girl groups, and Lennon's voice takes the sandpaper to the gloss.

Roll Over Beethoven
George Martin really neutered this, muting the drums way down in the mix - but, if you crank it, you can hear how seriously they would've ripped this thing in a live setting. Martin's gameplan was smart, I guess, because this mix turns a Chuck Berry call to revolution into something that sounds, superficially, like yet another chirpy Beatles ditty.

Hold Me Tight
And yet here George Martin plays up the underlying rhythm, which is otherwise not much of anything at all. Perfunctory Lennon/McCartney melody - they could've churned out this sort of thing 24/7 by this point. And holy handclaps.

You Really Got A Hold On Me
They really could nail these covers. It's kind of easy to overlook, but they tackled Smoky Robinson and didn't come out of the fray looking like pasty white kids with black eyes. They actually GOT it.

I Wanna Be Your Man
My intro to this song was the version by Suzi Quatro. It was a low point on her debut album, and a definite low point on a Beatles album. Almost saved by the (by now typical) enthusiasm of the band.

Devil In Her Heart
A cover that feels like filler. Harrison's vocals are surprisingly solid on these early albums, but he doesn't bring anything new or special to a song in the way his two more accomplished counterparts do.

Not A Second Time
Feels like more Lennon/McCartney factory line product.

Money
This one's just downright mean. Lennon returns to the frayed throat effect of "Twist & Shout", spits out the cynical lyrics with pure spite, and the band rocks it pretty good. Or they would if I could hear them properly - for whatever reason the piano is mixed WAY too high, effectively steamrollering the other instruments and dulling the impact of what the full band was bringing.


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i like till there was you in spite of the cheesiness.

i'm onto a hard day's night now. 3 albums in with killer opening tracks.

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I also like looking at how their cover art changed from album to album, and this is an interesting one.

Agreed. The cover of With The Beatles seems like a declaration of war against the status quo of record art at the time. I'd love to hear how they got the label to agree to that.


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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
"Roll Over Beethoven"

Blech. That guitar intro is sterile, neutered, and utterly pales next to the real thing. I want to like it, but it feels like a mistake to have included it on this album. Louder! Faster!


really? i fucking love this version

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john sang you really got a hold on me when he asked me to go steady. love the dramatic romance.
all my loving is tied with can't buy me love as my favorite beatles songs forever into eternity. the guitar in all my loving kills.
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I'm surprised that rads doesn't like I want to be your man because it seems like a Rolling Stones song to me.

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And now I'm in a 3 hour meeting.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
"I Wanna Be Your Man"

Meh+. Also reeks of 60's.


Uh...it was the 60's....

Some may not have aged well but those lame tracks...



So it sounds like you DO know what I was trying to say.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
jasn Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
"I Wanna Be Your Man"

Meh+. Also reeks of 60's.


Uh...it was the 60's....

Some may not have aged well but those lame tracks...



So it sounds like you DO know what I was trying to say.


Oh yeah, I'm not saying they're not lame, I was just adding self-imposed context. They were lame then, just less so than they are today.


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I've taken a slightly different approach. I already had probably 2/3 of The Beatles catalog, but went ahead and grabbed this whole box set for both the improved audio quality and to hear that 1/3 I haven't heard in years. What I'm doing is listening to the entire Beatles catalog on shuffle, song by song.

Right now, it's on "Ballad of John and Yoko." It's pretty jarring to go from like '63 to '69 on some of these, but still fun.

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jasn Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
"I Wanna Be Your Man"

Meh+. Also reeks of 60's.


Uh...it was the 60's....

Some may not have aged well but those lame tracks...



So it sounds like you DO know what I was trying to say.


Oh yeah, I'm not saying they're not lame, I was just adding self-imposed context. They were lame then, just less so than they are today.



Those 2 just sound dated in a way that the rest doesn't. Period pieces.

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I've taken a slightly different approach. I already had probably 2/3 of The Beatles catalog, but went ahead and grabbed this whole box set for both the improved audio quality and to hear that 1/3 I haven't heard in years. What I'm doing is listening to the entire Beatles catalog on shuffle, song by song.

Right now, it's on "Ballad of John and Yoko." It's pretty jarring to go from like '63 to '69 on some of these, but still fun.


this would just be too jarring for me and would be more of a distraction. i like hearing how drastically they change as i go chronologically

DIFFERENT STROKES

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I'm surprised that rads doesn't like I want to be your man because it seems like a Rolling Stones song to me.



Not sure if you put this out as bait or not but this WAS an early Stones hit that the Stones covered.

IMO, it smokes the Beatles original. It's on the Stones singles colection. Never made a proper album I don't think.


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i went and bought beatles for sale and help! after work today. i need to stop.




btw, what's with the past masters? is it just like a best of or something?

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btw, what's with the past masters? is it just like a best of or something?

It's the singles and b-sides that weren't on the albums.


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shit, another one i need to buy then.

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shit, another one i need to buy then.


there's actually two volumes of past masters :D

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shit, another one i need to buy then.


Yeah, Past Masters is fantastic; often a go-to when I feel like Beatles but just don't know what album.

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A Hard Day's Night is the third UK album by The Beatles, released on 10 July 1964 as the soundtrack to their film of the same name. The US version of the album was released on 26 June 1964 by United Artists Records with a different tracklisting. It was eventually replaced by the original UK version with its first release on CD, 26 February 1987.
While showcasing the development of the band's songwriting talents, the album sticks to the basic rock and roll instrumentation and song format. It is the first Beatles album to feature entirely original compositions, and the only one where all the songs were written by Lennon/McCartney.[1] The album contains some of their most famous songs, including the title track and its distinct, instantly recognizable opening chord;[2] and "Can't Buy Me Love", both were transatlantic number one singles for the band. The album and film are said to portray the classic image of the Beatles, as it was released at the height of Beatlemania.
According to music critic Richie Unterberger, "George Harrison's resonant 12-string electric guitar leads were hugely influential; the movie helped persuade the Byrds, then folksingers, to plunge all out into rock & roll, and the Beatles would be hugely influential on the folk-rock explosion of 1965. The Beatles' success, too, had begun to open the U.S. market for fellow Brits like the Rolling Stones, the Animals, and the Kinks, and inspired young American groups like the Beau Brummels, Lovin' Spoonful, and others to mount a challenge of their own with self-penned material that owed a great debt to Lennon-McCartney."[3]
The title of the album was the accidental creation of drummer Ringo Starr.[4] According to Lennon in a 1980 interview with Playboy magazine: "I was going home in the car and Dick Lester [director of the movie] suggested the title, 'Hard Day's Night' from something Ringo had said. I had used it in 'In His Own Write', but it was an off-the-cuff remark by Ringo. You know, one of those malapropisms. A Ringo-ism, where he said it not to be funny... just said it. So Dick Lester said, 'We are going to use that title.'"[5]
In 2000, Q placed A Hard Day's Night at number five in its list of the 100 Greatest British Albums Ever.[6] In 2003, the album was ranked number 388 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time.[7]

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