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BUFFALO, N.Y. (AP)—Jeff Quinn’s will be Buffalo’s new football coach following the departure of Turner Gill.

Quinn’s hiring was announced by the school Sunday, but he will remain as Cincinnati’s interim coach until after the Bearcats play Florida in the Sugar Bowl on Jan. 1.


I guess he had no interest in being an OC at Notre Dame after getting to be an interim coach for one game.

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Also it made me laugh hard when I found out the St. Petersburg Bowl game was sponsored by Beef O Brady's. I hadn't heard of that chain beforehand.

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Also it made me laugh hard when I found out the St. Petersburg Bowl game was sponsored by Beef O Brady's. I hadn't heard of that chain beforehand.


Its like an Applebee's in that they try to absorb the local sports flavor. Their food is ok...though, nothing to write home about. People 'round here go crazy for them for some reason.

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Also it made me laugh hard when I found out the St. Petersburg Bowl game was sponsored by Beef O Brady's. I hadn't heard of that chain beforehand.


Its like an Applebee's in that they try to absorb the local sports flavor. Their food is ok...though, nothing to write home about. People 'round here go crazy for them for some reason.


Yeah, its a "family sports bar" and basically hot garbage. My dad likes the wings there for some reason.

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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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Also it made me laugh hard when I found out the St. Petersburg Bowl game was sponsored by Beef O Brady's. I hadn't heard of that chain beforehand.


Its like an Applebee's in that they try to absorb the local sports flavor. Their food is ok...though, nothing to write home about. People 'round here go crazy for them for some reason.


Yeah, its a "family sports bar" and basically hot garbage. My dad likes the wings there for some reason.


My impression was that it was a ruse to get people to bring their children with them to a sports bar, so Touchy The Grampa could kidnap them, or at least dig through the trash for discarded diapers. That place is creepier than a 33 year old single guy hanging out at Chuck E. Cheese.

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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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We went to the one in PTC once several years ago on a Sunday to watch NASCAR & NFL and nearly burned the joint down when they told us that they didn't serve liquor. ("Just beer and wine fellas--this here's a family establishment") Needless to say, we took our business elsewhere.

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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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Fuck you Gar AND Stu!

I mean, did you really think we were going to get Kirby?

We are going to get someone hungry to prove themselves hopefully.

Had anyone ever heard of Erk Russell, Brian Van when they got the job?


No, but I think that we don't want to settle for the DC version of Gene Chizik -- someone we have to sell the players and the fans on. I think if we can get a fucking stud, then we should, and if we can't it shows something about where we are right now.

I think we're treading in dangerous waters, and that the wrong decisions this off season could lead to a period of mediocrity, and a right decision could mean a return to the heights of earlier this decade.

And, I still want Mike Bobo's head on a silver platter. .




I agree that it is possible to get a "splash" hire and him be a stud but those hires are few and far between. Any coach who is a "stud" is probably already getting HC offers. The only coach I can think of off the top of my head this decade who got mentioned ALMOST as much as the head coach is Norm Chow back when he was with USC. Most times it's the HC with his name in the headlines and no one else.

I agree with you that this is a HUGE hire for the future of Richt AND the program. If the D doesn't get better he may be done in 2-3 years. I'm just not going to freak out immediately if it isn't Kirby Smart or "enter hot shit flavor of the year coordinator here". Like I said before, EVERYONE questioned Van Gorder when he walked on campus. What would you give to have THAT dude back? I'm just saying that we're going to have to trust that Richt et al. can recognize talent and bring in someone better. Which, let's be honest, won't be that hard. I honestly think ANY sort of breath of fresh air will pay dividends next year.

Lastly, as usual, I find your hatred of Bobo misguided. Dude isn't without criticism from me but I've always felt he's far from our worst issue on his worst day and on his best days he wins big games.


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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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Also, if anything, the fact that Beef O' Brady's is sponsoring a fucking bowl game says that they at least have their marketing game in order.

You don't see Loco's sponsoring a bowl yet.


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Also, if anything, the fact that Beef O' Brady's is sponsoring a fucking bowl game says that they at least have their marketing game in order.

You don't see Loco's sponsoring a bowl yet.


THE LOCO'S BOWL. Wednesday December 17 in Jonesboro, GA. Featuring the Valdosta State University Life Fails vs The Abraham Baldwin Technical College (ABAC) Slingblades??

I'm there!!

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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WE MISSED IT?!?!

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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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WE MISSED IT?!?!

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Coupon for 1 Dozen Hot Wings
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and, a plastic/gold Pimp Cup, and 50 strings of beads!

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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 Post subject: Re: College Football 2009
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Bob Stoops to the Dallas Cowboys?
Not yet, but supposedly Jerry Jones might have him in mind if/when he pulls the trigger on Phillips.

Doesn't a University of Miami coach have to move to the Cowboys, before a Sooner coach?

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Senator Ba HumGAR Wrote:
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Also, if anything, the fact that Beef O' Brady's is sponsoring a fucking bowl game says that they at least have their marketing game in order.

You don't see Loco's sponsoring a bowl yet.


THE LOCO'S BOWL. Wednesday December 17 in Jonesboro, GA. Featuring the Valdosta State University Life Fails vs The Abraham Baldwin Technical College (ABAC) Slingblades??

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Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College. My hometown.


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College Football News All-Decade Team

http://cfn.scout.com/2/931006.html
http://cfn.scout.com/2/931007.html

Offensive Team is the first link, Defense and Special Teams is the second link.
They do a First, Second and Third team along with an honorable mention list. I think I like the Defensive list for this one a bit more than the SI team.

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Bob Stoops to the Dallas Cowboys?
Not yet, but supposedly Jerry Jones might have him in mind if/when he pulls the trigger on Phillips.

Doesn't a University of Miami coach have to move to the Cowboys, before a Sooner coach?


the cowboys are trying to GET RID OF a coach who chokes down the stretch and fails in big games (said before last saturday, of course)

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AP Player of the Year: Suh scores one for the D

By RALPH D. RUSSO (AP) – 1 hour ago

NEW YORK — Nebraska defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh bulled past the guys who play the glamour positions and proved you don't have to score touchdowns or toss passes to be the player of the year.

Spurred by a dominant performance against Texas in the Big 12 title game, Suh became the first defensive player voted The Associated Press College Football Player of the Year on Tuesday.

Suh had already won two defensive player of the year awards — the Nagurski and Bednarik — and two for best lineman — the Lombardi and Outland. He also finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting.

"Just being recognized as player of the year is a huge accomplishment," Suh said in a recent phone interview from Lincoln, Neb.

He received 26 of a possible 59 votes from AP college football poll voters to edge Stanford running back Toby Gerhart, who received 20 votes.

Heisman winner Mark Ingram finished tied for third with Texas quarterback Colt McCoy, each getting six votes. Florida quarterback Tim Tebow received one vote.

Since the AP started handing out a player of the year award in 1998, all the winners have been quarterbacks or running backs.

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What a difference a year makes. The Pac-10 looks like complete garbage in bowl games so far this season after being unbeaten last year. If Utah wins, the MWC has made the Pac-10 their bitch for the year.
I can only hope Nebraska doesn't look as bad as Oregon State did last night.

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Nobody has ever accused the PAC 10 of being deep in football.

Although is a loss by Cal to Utah really unexpected? (also, it's only a 10 point game right now)


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Nobody has ever accused the PAC 10 of being deep in football.

Although is a loss by Cal to Utah really unexpected? (also, it's only a 10 point game right now)


The Pac-10 was considered by many to be the 2nd best overall conference this year, and had the most teams in the BCS Top 25 at the end of the season.
Utah was predicted to win tonight, but I believe Oregon State was a slight favorite over BYU last night.

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Texas is the most valuable/profitable CFB program this year according to Forbes.

The top five:

1. Texas Longhorns
2. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
3. Pennsylvania State Nittany Lions
4. Nebraska Cornhuskers
5. Alabama Crimson Tide

Other Obner Schools
7. Louisiana State Tigers
9. Georgia Bulldogs
10. Oklahoma Sooners
16. Michigan State Spartans
17. Arkansas Razorbacks
19. Wisconsin Badgers
20. Oklahoma State Cowboys

The list is dominated by SEC, Big 12 and Big Ten teams.

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With this blizzard blowing outside I was hoping to see a shootout in the Hawaii Bowl, no such luck. Freaking SMU is annihilating Nevada 24-0. I guess it shows that when you haven't been to a bowl game in 25yrs, you clearly make it count and come prepared.

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Nobody has ever accused the PAC 10 of being deep in football.


Damn, Derris. You're typically very astute with your college football comments, but this statement is just plain uninformed.

Yeah, the showing so far this bowl season has been shit, but as Prom pointed out, the Pac 10 went undefeated last season in bowl games. The P10 has the best out of conference record vs. other BCS conference foes over the past 5 years.


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Damn, Derris. You're typically very astute with your college football comments, but this statement is just plain uninformed.

Yeah, the showing so far this bowl season has been shit, but as Prom pointed out, the Pac 10 went undefeated last season in bowl games. The P10 has the best out of conference record vs. other BCS conference foes over the past 5 years.



Uninformed? Look man, I think that the PAC 10 has had the best year this year that they've had in a LONG time. It's because you've finally got some depth at coaching out there and some of the non-trad power teams are making some noise. I LOVE that Oregon team and hope they beat the brakes of OSU.

(Larry David)THAT BEING SAID,(/Larry).....this is the first year that people have looked at the Pac 10 as more of a conference than USC and the "other teams" nationally in a while. For most of the decade you never heard "USC really has had a murderer's row of conference games getting to their 3rd straight title". To me, depth of good teams has been it's main fault. That's where I was going with that.

Also, I really find comparing conference records in bowl games to be as useless as pre-season rankings or bowl projections in September. They really have nothing to do with the resume a team has built over the course of a season. There are million factors that come into play for a bowl game; travel, is one team ranked much higher and disappointed to be in Bowl X, is the other team EXTREMELY motivated to prove themselves (see: Boise Fiesta Bowl), time off from practice to get rusty, was team X playing better at the end of the season when the time off came, etc, etc, etc. Also, didn't the MAC go 4-0 in bowls or something a couple years ago? Does that make them the best conference? I mean, if you've got 4 teams in playing bowls pre-Jan 1 and 4 of the teams are teams accustomed to playing Jan 1 bowls (ie they had a disappointing year) and you have 4 teams who had a GREAT year and are ecstatic to be playing in the Emerald Nut Bowl. Who is more motivated to win? I'd wager that scenario plays out about 50-50 most of the times.

I'm much more impressed by consistency. BYU beat the hell out of Oregon State the other night. Okay great. Now go on the road and beat Stanford next week. After that you get to play LSU at home. Do that and I'll know something more.

Just saying that a one off game really tells me nothing of the state of a program or it's conference.


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Nobody has ever accused the PAC 10 of being deep in football.


Damn, Derris. You're typically very astute with your college football comments, but this statement is just plain uninformed.

Yeah, the showing so far this bowl season has been shit, but as Prom pointed out, the Pac 10 went undefeated last season in bowl games. The P10 has the best out of conference record vs. other BCS conference foes over the past 5 years.



Uninformed? Look man, I think that the PAC 10 has had the best year this year that they've had in a LONG time. It's because you've finally got some depth at coaching out there and some of the non-trad power teams are making some noise. I LOVE that Oregon team and hope they beat the brakes of OSU.

(Larry David)THAT BEING SAID,(/Larry).....this is the first year that people have looked at the Pac 10 as more of a conference than USC and the "other teams" nationally in a while. For most of the decade you never heard "USC really has had a murderer's row of conference games getting to their 3rd straight title". To me, depth of good teams has been it's main fault. That's where I was going with that.

Also, I really find comparing conference records in bowl games to be as useless as pre-season rankings or bowl projections in September. They really have nothing to do with the resume a team has built over the course of a season. There are million factors that come into play for a bowl game; travel, is one team ranked much higher and disappointed to be in Bowl X, is the other team EXTREMELY motivated to prove themselves (see: Boise Fiesta Bowl), time off from practice to get rusty, was team X playing better at the end of the season when the time off came, etc, etc, etc. Also, didn't the MAC go 4-0 in bowls or something a couple years ago? Does that make them the best conference? I mean, if you've got 4 teams in playing bowls pre-Jan 1 and 4 of the teams are teams accustomed to playing Jan 1 bowls (ie they had a disappointing year) and you have 4 teams who had a GREAT year and are ecstatic to be playing in the Emerald Nut Bowl. Who is more motivated to win? I'd wager that scenario plays out about 50-50 most of the times.

I'm much more impressed by consistency. BYU beat the hell out of Oregon State the other night. Okay great. Now go on the road and beat Stanford next week. After that you get to play LSU at home. Do that and I'll know something more.

Just saying that a one off game really tells me nothing of the state of a program or it's conference.


I agree with your points regarding inter-conference bowl records.

But what about the Pac 10's out-of-conference record vs. teams from the other 5 BCS conferences during the regular season? It's the best over the past 5 years. Even taking SC out the equation, the Pac 10 still has the 2nd best OOC record during the regular season (with the SEC 1st). Does that not indicate some depth?

Like you insinuate above, I feel like it's more of a perceived lack of depth rather than actual. :shrug:


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agree with dm. its more of a perceived weakness than actual. the pac-10 does seem to have a real issue with the mountain west lately. not sure if its motivation or just that the mountain west is really that good. oregon state really did not look half as good vs. BYU as they did the rest of the year. maybe just a hangover from another civil war beat down.

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