The Dreaded Marco Wrote:
Rick Derris Wrote:
Nobody has ever accused the PAC 10 of being deep in football.
Damn, Derris. You're typically very astute with your college football comments, but this statement is just plain uninformed.
Yeah, the showing so far this bowl season has been shit, but as Prom pointed out, the Pac 10 went undefeated last season in bowl games. The P10 has the best out of conference record vs. other BCS conference foes over the past 5 years.
Uninformed? Look man, I think that the PAC 10 has had the best year this year that they've had in a LONG time. It's because you've finally got some depth at coaching out there and some of the non-trad power teams are making some noise. I LOVE that Oregon team and hope they beat the brakes of OSU.
(Larry David)THAT BEING SAID,(/Larry).....this is the first year that people have looked at the Pac 10 as more of a conference than USC and the "other teams" nationally in a while. For most of the decade you never heard "USC really has had a murderer's row of conference games getting to their 3rd straight title". To me, depth of good teams has been it's main fault. That's where I was going with that.
Also, I really find comparing conference records in bowl games to be as useless as pre-season rankings or bowl projections in September. They really have nothing to do with the resume a team has built over the course of a season. There are million factors that come into play for a bowl game; travel, is one team ranked much higher and disappointed to be in Bowl X, is the other team EXTREMELY motivated to prove themselves (see: Boise Fiesta Bowl), time off from practice to get rusty, was team X playing better at the end of the season when the time off came, etc, etc, etc. Also, didn't the MAC go 4-0 in bowls or something a couple years ago? Does that make them the best conference? I mean, if you've got 4 teams in playing bowls pre-Jan 1 and 4 of the teams are teams accustomed to playing Jan 1 bowls (ie they had a disappointing year) and you have 4 teams who had a GREAT year and are ecstatic to be playing in the Emerald Nut Bowl. Who is more motivated to win? I'd wager that scenario plays out about 50-50 most of the times.
I'm much more impressed by consistency. BYU beat the hell out of Oregon State the other night. Okay great. Now go on the road and beat Stanford next week. After that you get to play LSU at home. Do that and I'll know something more.
Just saying that a one off game really tells me nothing of the state of a program or it's conference.