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i mean, maybe if the g.i. joe movie even tried to take some ideas/plots from the comic book i would've thought it was decent but it was like "we're just gonna sorta base this on the concept of g.i. joe".

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Wow. That makes the G.I. Joe movie look like an art film.


Really? At least they kept the essence of the show intact. By the time we saw the trailer for GI Joe, they had already pretty much decided to alienate all fanboys. A-Team keeps the characters looking like the characters in the show, and keeps catchphrases, etc. I expected it to be over-the-top, so I guess I'm not surprised by the trailer. All I care about is Hannibal uttering his trademark line, the van, and well, a black guy with a mohawk. You got that, I'm probably gonna give you some rope.


I'm not sure "some rope" is going to cover their weak-ass substitute for Mr. T.

And I'm still kind of at a loss as to how anyone could have expected more from a G.I. Joe movie. Really. It's a concept that's every bit as ridiculous as the A-Team, and in execution from the early '80s onward, it's been just as silly. Yes, that includes the comic books, too, which I did read for a while as a kid. They were even more dubious for taking themselves so seriously.

And I dunno, this A-Team preview doesn't even look remotely fun to me. How'd you like that Dukes of Hazard movie?


I think if you could've made a really fun GI Joe movie, still retaining the basic premise. Look, you're missing the main idea of films of this nature--all the fanboys want is for the characters to look and act like they do in the comics/cartoons/etc. You do that, and I guarantee you will get a standing ovation at San Diego CC. The makers of A-Team got it right. They retained the look and the attitude. let's be honest here, if you go to see a GI Joe movie, you want to see a GI Joe movie. You don't want to see some new-fangled artistic take on them. You want Shipwreck to look like shipwreck, and Scarlet to look like Scarlet, no matter how stupid that might be.

I personally didn't like the DoH movie. That was favorite show growing up, and they butchered it. Making it a comedy because that was what was in vogue at the time, was pretty stupid. The show already had built in humor with Coltrane, and Boss Hogg. You don't need to overly push it in the face of people.

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Of course the DoH movie was terrible (I haven't seen it), but I don't see how this A-Team movie could possibly be a good idea. So what if the characters are dressed the same and all running around saying and doing the same stuff? Oh, great! A pale new facsimile of something that's only really enjoyable for kitsch factor. Awesome. Just watch the original fucking show.


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People view these movies for the same reason that filmmakers put a particular era of a song in a movie. It creates an emotional response, and therefore causes the viewer to reminiscence.

I think I've made my film choices pretty public, so its safe to say that this isn't my type of film. But I'm more open to staying "loyal" to the source material then going out and making something completely different and sticking the name on it.

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well, i mean, let's be realistic here- everything hollywood does has artistic merit, right? so you clearly should expect, like, citizen hannibal from a movie about the fucking a-team. c'mon, drinky. use the noggin.


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Of course the DoH movie was terrible (I haven't seen it)


and can I just point out that this was the same stuff you've called billy g out in the past. Jus' saying. Its hard to accept a viewpoint by just going on a perceived notion of what something might be.

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Of course the DoH movie was terrible (I haven't seen it)


and can I just point out that this was the same stuff you've called billy g out in the past. Jus' saying. Its hard to accept a viewpoint by just going on a perceived notion of what something might be.


It is not the same.

Christ, you and Z make want to give up ever trying to communicate a thought to another human being.


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Christ, you and Z make want to give up ever trying to communicate a thought to another human being.

I think if you look closer you'll find Z is on your side on this one.


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It is, because Billy used to put down records that he'd never heard based on his previous experiences listening to a genre.

Yr thoughts are valid, but why do I have to bow down to them? I'm just stating mine as much as yrs. That's fine that you think the A-Team is going to suck. It probably will. But based on the trailer, imo, it didn't look bad, which was the main point. I don't discount what you say, I just disagree with it.

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Christ, you and Z make want to give up ever trying to communicate a thought to another human being.

I think if you look closer you'll find Z is on your side on this one.


Uh, maybe. I guess it looked to me like he was repeating my exact point right back to me as if it wasn't what I was trying to say all along. Or that I should just lighten up and enjoy the fun ride that will be the new A Team movie.


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Yeah, you might be right.

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I dunno Rads. You should post some film recs though.

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It is, because Billy used to put down records that he'd never heard based on his previous experiences listening to a genre.


And that's not the same as what I'm doing, formulating a solid opinion on something based on snippets (previews) I have seen, reviews I read (or skimmed), and my knowledge of the parties involved creating it. And I cannot imagine why you would even think to challenge this in this particular case. Do I need to sit through this entire movie to form a valid - and widely supported - opinion of it? There's a big difference between that and saying "this doesn't interest me because I don't like things like this". It's not that I'm not into goofy comedies or remakes. It's that, by all accounts, it was a terrible, terrible movie. I have literally never heard or seen anyone say anything good about it.

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Yr thoughts are valid, but why do I have to bow down to them? I'm just stating mine as much as yrs. That's fine that you think the A-Team is going to suck. It probably will. But based on the trailer, imo, it didn't look bad, which was the main point. I don't discount what you say, I just disagree with it.


Where did I suggest that you have to "bow down" to my thoughts? Where do you get this? We can disagree, but does that mean the discussion has to stop after the initial disagreement? I'm just carrying forth a discussion here, not trying to subvert everyone to my way of thinking.


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I love it when Obners call out other Obners for their argumentative hypocrisy. How do you people remember who said what and who called out who? Admittedly, I lack the brain capacity to store all that shit. The information you all store about each other is highly amusing.

And, I'd just like to pre-empt any witty Obner who wants to make tired references to hand jewelry, my animal care business, or just tell me to shut up. hahaha


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It just seems like yr kinda taking certain points personally. It doesn't matter. Its a moot point to continue.

Heg-I retain very little from this board to recall back certain things, but I remember the threads that would go sour based on comments from said parties.

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hey, a gi joe sequel was just greenlit.


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GI Joe, Dukes of Hazzard, A-Team, Transformers, etc are the Britney Spears of films to varying degrees. It exists in every artform in some way or another. Bad is entirely relative though, because all those films make shitloads of money. So, if the technical quality is good enough to allow a mass audience to run away into some ridiculous narrative, then I think it, and hollywood would likely agree, that it's done it's job. I just try and accept these movies for what they are and occasionally go see one if I wanna just go have a good time. I don't see much sense in taking them too seriously because I don't think the movies or the production companies do.


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Avatar - The plot and dialogue were something I could have written in the 3rd grade. But I'd be dishonest if the visuals didn't flat out amaze me at certain moments. Occasionally the CGI showed through, but it was seemless more often than not. Cameron is a very flawed filmmaker, but he knows how to entertain.

Inglorious Bastards - Seriously? I can't believe I sort of bought the hype on this one. Easily the worst QT film I've ever seen. The only thing worth watching were some of the acting performances. QT has moved into Woody Allen territory - makes crappy films with good actors because it's "cool" to work with him.

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I guess I didn't read the reviews enough to know this wasn't a standard baseball film. Of course, by default because it has baseball in it, and centers its story around a promising Dominican Republic pitcher, its considered as such. However, the film really focuses more on what the baseball system in the United States does to young, foreign talent. Sure, one could attest to the fact that someone is paying a poor sugar farmer to play baseball, and to potentially achieve monetary and celebrity status. What happens when that player reaches his potential and its not up to major league par? Or what of the pressures of culture clash and homesickness? The film focuses on all these areas, and while it doesn't blatantly make a hardened stance either way, it does open the floor to discussion about the process.

It was entertaining, and the film definitely was shot well. Using an almost documentary, over the shoulder approach to many scenes made them more believable than straight shooting them. The gorgeous exteriors of the Dominican Republic and Iowa were definitely a treat as well.

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Purple Rain

I probably haven't seen this one for about 20 years and it was well worth the time, even though the movie (minus the music) is abjectly terrible. The unintentional humor quotient is way higher than I could have though possible. Here are three things about Purple Rain that make it worth watching:

1) The overt homo eroticism. I expected this but it was still awesome. Watching Prince and Morris Day flash their affected looks of anger at each other is hilarious. I also like that the object of their mutual attraction, Appolonia, seems to be the least interesting female organism on the planet.

2) The concert footage. When I was young, I was convinced that he was performing live. That is clearly not the case. Still, the performances are worth watching due to the crazy shit Prince does on stage. Which leads me to.....

3) The final 30 seconds of the film. After "Baby I'm a Star", Prince seems to not really know how to appropriately close out the night of his life. In a flash of brilliance, demonstrated by a finger to the lip and a coy glance to the ceiling, Prince realizes that there is only one way to bring down the house. You must climb up onto your Marshall stack, grab your leopard print Strat and stroke its neck until a white liquid sprays out onto the crowd, all while contorting your face in a combination of agony and ecstasy. I wish I could find a .gif or YouTube video of this moment, for it must be seen to be believed.

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pretty good, i guess. i'm down with guy ritchie usually. but, what i'd really like to know, is this better or worse than revolver?

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wasn't revolver direct to video?

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Avatar - The plot and dialogue were something I could have written in the 3rd grade. But I'd be dishonest if I said the visuals didn't flat out amaze me at certain moments. Occasionally the CGI showed through, but it was seemless more often than not. Cameron is a very flawed filmmaker, but he knows how to entertain.

Inglorious Bastards - Seriously? I can't believe I sort of bought the hype on this one. Easily the worst QT film I've ever seen. The only thing worth watching were some of the acting performances. QT has moved into Woody Allen territory - makes crappy films with good actors because it's "cool" to work with him.

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