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Yeah, but realistically how accurate have these things proven themselves to be. Any prediction about 20 or so years into the future no matter how much science it's based on is still no more than a guess, granted an educated scientific guess. This is just what will probably happen if things continue going a certain way which they rarely do.



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If it indeed does turn out to be wrong, it most likely won't be because it was too low.

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the fucking 529 i started almost 3 years ago is just now getting back to the dollar amount it was started at. blech.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Leon Wrote:
Yeah, but realistically how accurate have these things proven themselves to be. Any prediction about 20 or so years into the future no matter how much science it's based on is still no more than a guess, granted an educated scientific guess. This is just what will probably happen if things continue going a certain way which they rarely do.



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If it indeed does turn out to be wrong, it most likely won't be because it was too low.


Based on what evidence? The best schools in the country now cost about $50,000 a year, whereas the average out of state tuition for state schools are about $20,000-$30,000. In order for this to be true the cost of some colleges would have to double in less than twenty years, and most would have to triple. And if the costs do rise because of inflation, that would mean that the value of all money would drop anyways. That being said I do hate how colleges rise their costs year after year.

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Leon Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Leon Wrote:
Yeah, but realistically how accurate have these things proven themselves to be. Any prediction about 20 or so years into the future no matter how much science it's based on is still no more than a guess, granted an educated scientific guess. This is just what will probably happen if things continue going a certain way which they rarely do.



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If it indeed does turn out to be wrong, it most likely won't be because it was too low.


Based on what evidence? The best schools in the country now cost about $50,000 a year, whereas the average out of state tuition for state schools are about $20,000-$30,000. In order for this to be true the cost of some colleges would have to double in less than twenty years, and most would have to triple. And if the costs do rise because of inflation, that would mean that the value of all money would drop anyways. That being said I do hate how colleges rise their costs year after year.


Anecdotal, but my tuition doubled over the course of five years.
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Based on what evidence? The best schools in the country now cost about $50,000 a year, whereas the average out of state tuition for state schools are about $20,000-$30,000. In order for this to be true the cost of some colleges would have to double in less than twenty years, and most would have to triple. And if the costs do rise because of inflation, that would mean that the value of all money would drop anyways. That being said I do hate how colleges rise their costs year after year.



Didn't you essentially just say there is no such thing as "future" evidence?

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Leon Wrote:
Based on what evidence? The best schools in the country now cost about $50,000 a year, whereas the average out of state tuition for state schools are about $20,000-$30,000. In order for this to be true the cost of some colleges would have to double in less than twenty years, and most would have to triple. And if the costs do rise because of inflation, that would mean that the value of all money would drop anyways. That being said I do hate how colleges rise their costs year after year.



Didn't you essentially just say there is no such thing as "future" evidence?


Thanks for making our point for us, Leon.

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As long as the great state of Louisiana has the TOPS program, my children will go to LSU. Can't beat free college.

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As long as the great state of Louisiana has the TOPS program, my children will go to LSU. Can't beat free college.


We had some kind of pre-paid college tuition plan here, but it went bust.

Oh yeah, 529 allows you to cover expenses as well, which is probably why the new dumb are confused. Think about it - tuition was much cheaper than my massive "habits" bills were.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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the fucking 529 i started almost 3 years ago is just now getting back to the dollar amount it was started at. blech.


Yeah, pretty sure my kids aint going to college unless stuff turns around...

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Senator GAR in 2010! Wrote:
Kingfish Wrote:
As long as the great state of Louisiana has the TOPS program, my children will go to LSU. Can't beat free college.


Oh yeah, 529 allows you to cover expenses as well, which is probably why the new dumb are confused. Think about it - tuition was much cheaper than my massive "habits" bills were.


i was about to add that yeah, beer and weed is included in the 529.


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Senator GAR in 2010! Wrote:
Kingfish Wrote:
As long as the great state of Louisiana has the TOPS program, my children will go to LSU. Can't beat free college.


Oh yeah, 529 allows you to cover expenses as well, which is probably why the new dumb are confused. Think about it - tuition was much cheaper than my massive "habits" bills were.


i was about to add that yeah, beer and weed is included in the 529.


Which was why I had such a great education.

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e-stone Wrote:
the fucking 529 i started almost 3 years ago is just now getting back to the dollar amount it was started at. blech.


Yeah, pretty sure my kids aint going to college unless stuff turns around...


But in the meantime you were able to buy more shares for the same amount of money - if you were doing monthly debits.

There is no doubt college tuition is going to rise - and outpace inflation - and if it doesnt, then probably only for bad reasons. The question is by how much.

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According to the College Board, in the 1970s there was little, if any, real growth in college prices. In the early 1980s, however, tuition and fees began to grow much more rapidly than consumer prices – in fact, during the 1980s, the cost of attending college rose over three times as fast as median family income. This trend of rapidly-increasing college costs has continued through the 1990s. Over the ten-year period ending in 2002–2003, after adjusting for inflation, average tuition and fees at both public and private four-year colleges and universities rose 38 percent. (See appendix, Chart B, for tuition increases 1977 - 2002) And according to information gathered from the College Board and the Census Bureau, over the last 22 years (since 1981), the cost of a public four-year college education has increased by 202 percent, while the CPI has gone up only 80 percent.

College Cost Crisis Report here

I dont know what the answer is.. I dont think about it.


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Interesting blog post about Black Francis' latest offering.

For the record, I'm not a big Black Francis fan (nor Frank Black, nor really Pixies for that matter).


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Interesting blog post about Black Francis' latest offering.

For the record, I'm not a big Black Francis fan (nor Frank Black, nor really Pixies for that matter).


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jesus h christ what's gotten into him... an album about licking bush?

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jesus h christ what's gotten into him... an album about licking bush?

Maybe take some notes.


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jesus h christ what's gotten into him... an album about licking bush?

Maybe take some notes.


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Zooey Deschanel to produce/star in HBO production of Pamela Des Barres' memoir I'm With the Band.


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jesus h christ what's gotten into him... an album about licking bush?

Maybe take some notes.


haha, Cap'n schooled by the new Ob.


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And sensitive hipster dudes everywhere just jizzed themselves thinking of Zooey in some lurid groupie sex scene.


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jesus h christ what's gotten into him... an album about licking bush?

Maybe take some notes.


haha, Cap'n schooled by the new Ob.



That Ob is far from new.

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