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Bracketology
2-15-2010

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology

MIDWEST
1 Kansas vs Middle Tennessee State
8 Illinois vs Georgia Tech
5 Pittsburgh vs Charlotte
4 Gonzaga vs Utah State

WEST
1 Syracuse vs Stony Brook
8 Maryland vs Old Dominion
5 Texas vs Murray State
3 West Virginia vs Oakland
7 Xavier vs Siena

SOUTH
1 Kentucky vs Play-in
5 Wake Forest vs Marquette
3 Wisconsin vs Weber State
2 Kansas State vs Belmont

EAST
1 Villanova vs Robert Morris
8 Missouri vs Clemson
5 Temple vs Saint Mary's
4 Vanderbilt vs Northeastern

LAST FOUR IN
Marquette
Charlotte
Saint Mary's
Oklahoma State
FIRST FOUR OUT
Florida
Cincinnati
Mississippi State
Mississippi

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We're get close to conference tournament time and we will soon be competing for CD's.

Bracketology for 2-22-2010

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

The Obner list

MIDWEST
1 Kansas vs Campbell
5 Temple vs St. Mary
4 Michigan State vs Kent State
3 Vanderbilt vs Sam Houston
7 Missouri vs Georgia Tech
2 Villanova vs Morgan State

WEST
1 Purdue vs Robert Morris
8 Baylor vs Virginia Tech
4 Pittsburgh vs Northeastern
7 Xavier vs Illinois
2 West Virginia vs Coastal Carolina

EAST
1 Kentucky vs Play-in winner
5 Texas vs Siena

SOUTH
1 Syracuse vs Stony Brook
5 Wisconsin vs Dayton
4 Gonzaga vs Utah State
6 Tennessee vs Marquette
7 Maryland vs UAB
2 Kansas State vs North Texas


Last Four In

* UAB
* Rhode Island
* Dayton
* Saint Mary's

First Four Out

* San Diego State
* Mississippi State
* Cincinnati
* Connecticut

Next Four Out

* Ole Miss
* Memphis
* Arizona State
* Charlotte

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Those 1 seeds look pretty solid right about now, unless some shit goes down.

I watched quite a bit of that Purdue/Minnesota game last night. Tough place to play, the Barn...for the Boilermakers sake I hope Hummel isn't too badly hurt, I like their team a lot this year. No one ever believes it, but the Big Ten is really strong this year. MSU, Purdue, and OSU could all be possible final 4 teams, that'll never happen, but still.

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No one ever believes it, but the Big Ten is really strong this year. MSU, Purdue, and OSU could all be possible final 4 teams, that'll never happen, but still.


You're right, no one believes the Big Ten is really strong this year. Ohio State and Michigan State have been generally outclassed by ranked non-conference opponents. The Big 12 and Big East were looking the most stout until teams started to take each other out in conference play, then those conferences sort of lost some luster.
I'm more apt to buy into the fact that the Big East could have four elite eight teams and possibly three final four teams.
I will say that Purdue has quietly established themselves as the cream of the crop in the Big Ten. Both the Boilermakers and Syracuse seem to be like safe bets to make a strong tournament run.

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you think the Big East will have a solid tourney!?, way to go out on a limb! :wink:

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Also who gives a shit really about what happned in December.

Tom Izzo's teams seem to always get hot at tourney time.

That guy is incredible.


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Also who gives a shit really about what happned in December.

Tom Izzo's teams seem to always get hot at tourney time.

That guy is incredible.


pretty much...5 final fours in the past eleven seasons, not too shabby.

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Also who gives a shit really about what happned in December.

Tom Izzo's teams seem to always get hot at tourney time.

That guy is incredible.


He's the Anti-Richt.

(Sorry about that. But first thing that came to mind.)


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 Post subject: Re: NCAA Basketball 2009-2010
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Not really sure how you come to that conclusion.


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Not really sure how you come to that conclusion.


MSU basketball opens poorly/"poorly", but comes on late.

Georgia football comes out like a house afire, all the momentum/"momentum" of media expectation at their back, then wilts.


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You really want to get into it?


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Georgia football comes out like a house afire, all the momentum/"momentum" of media expectation at their back, then wilts.


This point is certainly lacking some validity.
The Dawgs have won four bowl games in a row, and rarely lose two games straight. They haven't had a what you could remotely call a late season slide since Jim Donnan's final year in Athens, and they still won their bowl game that season.

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Bowl games are meaningless.

What's the record against UF, UT, et. al.?


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Bowl games are meaningless.

What's the record against UF, UT, et. al.?


They maybe meaningless, but they are an example of post-season play. The BCS bowls are the equivalent of the Big Dance and all the second tier bowls are like making the NIT

To answer your question,

Richt is 2-7 against the Gators during his tenure, and UGA is 46-39-2 all time
He is 3-3 against LSU, including 1-1 in SEC Title games. UGA is losing the all-time series with the Bayou Bengals 12-15-1
Richt is 5-4 against Tennessee, and the Dawgs are trailing the all-time series 16-21-2
Lastly, Richt is 3-1 against Bama, 6-3 against Auburn and 8-1 against their in-state rival Georgia Tech.

Since Florida has been one of the best teams in college football this past decade, you can't really fault Georgia for struggling against them. It's kind of like Mack Brown being 4-5 against Oklahoma in his first nine seasons in Austin.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4946559

Purdue forward Robbie Hummel has a torn ACL and will miss the rest of the season, the school said Thursday.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=4946559

Purdue forward Robbie Hummel has a torn ACL and will miss the rest of the season, the school said Thursday.



that's a killer, bye bye final 4 hopes.

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 Post subject: Re: NCAA Basketball 2009-2010
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Bowl games are meaningless.

What's the record against UF, UT, et. al.?



Monty, I want to fucking like you but you just can't fucking help yourself. You're dick is so hard to fucking hate on the Dawgs that you're about to explode.

I won't even get into the fact of how different BBall and Football are but I'll just say that people smarter than you seemed to think that Richt was one the Top 10 best coaches of the last 10 years.

The MNC is something that even you will admit takes a SHITLOAD of luck to even be in position to win. It just so happened that the 2 years that Richt WON the SEC, we weren't deemed worthy enough to play for it all ( despite being the hottest team in the land in 2005(?))

The bottom line is that you just can't help yourself and just HAVE to take a shot at UGA for whatever reason (which i'd LOVE to know). I suspect it's mostly due to Loogar's chiding but whatever.


Lastly, UGA has already improved over 2 conference wins and has proven to be a formidable opponent at home. I think Mark Fox is going to be the man to turn this program around and be a contender next year. What will you do when Marquette misses the tourney this year?

1977 ain't coming back again.

What about football?

OH THAT'S RIGHT!! FAIL!!


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Also, Monty - Schedule reading Fail. Tennessee usually falls a month into the season, and LSU is before Halloween.

Late season we usually come on, as we have Florida over Halloween, and then tend to win or at least play tough against usually: Kentucky, Auburn and Georgia Tech.

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Every time i see Villanova they lose, and their ranking is slipping. Are they any good?

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Actually, my effort to take the piss from Richt was rooted in the dismal impression of the man, of late, at least, of the board's UGA presence. Granted, maybe I read too much into the intense dislike of the coach's loyalty to the man dubbed GARtinez, & to a lesser extent, he named GARbo, but it seemed, if anything, that the Georgia fans thought Richt past his utility to UGA football (& its effort to achieve a return to its own "Marquette '77" heights, i.e. the '80 championship win (over Notre Dame, no?) & Herschel's five Heismen (multiple personalities, each a WINNER, in GARgamesh parlance). But maybe I misread that.

As to Richt being a top 10 coach, nationally... Maybe? Top 10 would include, still, Paterno -- I suppose; not beholden to a Penn Stater, though I'm sure Colin, Mugwump's brother, would approve; Mack Brown; Urban Meyer; Les Miles (he does, after all, have a Nat'l Championship to call his own); Saban; Tressl (in reality, prolly not much ahead of Richt, if at all, but does have that '02 title); Bob Stoops... Maybe even Willingham, at Utah. Chris Petersen at Boise. Those are nine. After those, are any really so great? The star has faded for Rich Rod at Michigan. Butch Davis (UNC) & Steve Spurrier (USC) are trying, in vain, to reestablish past glory. Bielama at UW is nothing special, at all. Tedford at Cal, Nutt at Ole Miss? No, & no. Harbaugh & Sarkisian have awakened derelict programmes, but how far can they take them; Ol' Jim was gunning for that Notre Dame job this offseason. Wannstache at PITT, Gary Pinkel at Mizzou? No, & no.

Richt might come in ten, then. But he's got a ways to go to match even Les Miles.


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I don't think you misread the frustration with the 2009 season but it's also like having a brother or sister. I can talk all the shit in the world about them but when someone outside the family does it then it's on.

This was the first really bad season that Richt has had (if an 8-5 season can be seen as such). We've had deficiencies on Defense and Special Teams the last 2-3 years it took this past season to really help Richt get over his loyalties and make some changes. That's what good coaches do. From everything I've read we're going to be better in every way in those areas.

I got the top 10 coach idea from this:

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/rankin ... =2000-2009

It factors in winning pct, strength of sched, Natl Championships won, and Big 4 Bowl appearances. UGA is #8 and is the highest team without a Natl Championship. I don't know how you can't see him as one of the best. He's done it over a longer period of time that some on there as well and against the toughest competition. I understand that a Championship can validate a coach but I refuse to believe that Miles winning one with 2 losses and playing an undeserving OSU team somehow puts him way ahead of Richt. That's not to cheapen LSU's '07 title. They took advantage of the opportunity.

This next year will go a long way in defining Richt and how UGA bounces back. To me, he's Dean Smith or Bobby Bowden before they won Championships. Good human beings first, good coaches second, and the titles will eventually come. It took Smith over 20 years and Bowden about 15 (?).


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Bracketology 3-01-2010

It is officially March, which means tournament talk is now serious business.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

MIDWEST
1 Kansas vs Quinnipiac
8 UNLV vs Marquette
5 Gonzaga vs Siena
6 Xavier vs Utah State
3 Pittsburgh vs Sam Houston State
7 Texas vs Florida State
2 Purdue vs Troy

SOUTH
1 Syracuse vs Play-in winner
8 Oklahoma State vs Clemson
5 Wisconsin vs Saint Mary's
4 Temple vs San Diego State
6 Maryland vs Old Dominion
7 Louisville vs Illinois
2 Kansas State vs Coastal Carolina

WEST
1 Duke vs Lipscomb
8 Missouri vs Northern Iowa
5 Georgetown vs Cornell
4 Michigan State vs Mississippi State
6 Baylor vs Virginia Tech
3 West Virginia vs Oakland

EAST
1 Kentucky vs Stony Brook
2 Villanova vs Morgan State

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GEORGIA TECH LOL.

Seriously, has any coach done less with with NBA talent than Paul Hewitt.

If they miss the tourney he may very well be gone.


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Right now they are a seven seed and allegedly moving up, I just didn't bother to include them this time around

Here are the teams currently at risk of not making it according to ESPN and Joe Lunardi:


Last Four In

* Virginia Tech
* Saint Mary's
* Mississippi State
* San Diego State

First Four Out

* Notre Dame
* Minnesota
* Rhode Island
* Dayton

Next Four Out

* Ole Miss
* Seton Hall
* Cincinnati
* Memphis

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Cincinnati has played a lot of high ranked teams closely and lost. If they make it, I see them making one upset and then losing. They are too young this year to play consistently well.


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