NMR: Job Offer

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:26 pm

Twilightkid Wrote:

Ok Ok...On a lunch break...

My daughters are 2 1/2 and 2 months. I bring it up as they are both still at home, and being unemployed I have been able to help put my wife. Anyone with kids will understand what a handful it is. Granted if I had a job locally, at least id be home at night to help out...

the job itself, would have me being away for the training period from late Sunday night (so i could wake up in DC monday morning and be at the office by 830 and staying in DC until Wed night). After the training period it would be from Sunday night through Tuesday night....So it is travel time every week...

As for the unemployment comment, Timmy Joe 'gets it'. In my post college professional life, I have worked 15 straight years (50-70 hour a week type jobs), until I was laid off....I put into the system. I provided for those out of work during that time....I do not feel guilty for collecting. My savings is my savings, and is supplementing right now. I am not someone who doesn't want to work. I want to work. But I also don't want to be away from my family for such periods, fora job, while the pay is gonna be pretty decent, I already know I am gonna dread... The good is not overwhelmingly out weighing what I am sacrificing...

I'm not gonna go back through the thread and see who said what, but to those who said 'get skype', seems to me aren't parents, or their kids are old enough where they want to be away from them for a period...I just got off with my wife and she put my 2 year old on who said 'i love you daddy. see you tonight'....it was almost enough to make me want to grab the next train and not even finish out the day....I don't think that is something I will get use to after a few weeks...

The general consensus are right...I will probably take the job and give it a shot....And see if i can negotiate to work at home more after the training period. Providing for the fam is important, but not at the expense of never seeing them...

I think this is all about how you were brought up. My wife still cries when I leave for a single night....but in my family it didn't matter what you had to, or where you had to go -- you just did the job. I fucking HUSTLE for every single dollar I make, and in the end my kid will love me and hate me for a million different reasons than being gone for 2 nights a week. I'd rather be able to afford my house and my car and his daycare than see him every night.

The other thing is - I get home after he's asleep probably 4 nights a week. Will it be hard? yes. Should you take the fucking job? In this economy even considering says a lot about you. Good things and bad things about you from certain perspectives.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

I didn't mean to imply that you were either lazy in your search or wrongly holding out for the ideal job. What little I know about your professional life though is that I think you worked in magazine advertising sales for niche music magazines (metal?) and maybe horror magazines, and had a side business running a small label of your own. I may not be entirely accurate about that but it seems like your employers were probably niche businesses and both music labels and magazine publishing are troubled industries. In that sense, its easy to believe that if you want a similar job, you probably can't be all that selective because I doubt there are a ton of opportunities out there.

Like I said, I probably have a lot of "facts" here wrong, have little idea what other opportunities you've seen or not seen, what else your skills and experience are transferrable to, how hard you've looked, and how tight things are for you financially. It would seem all of this would be terribly important in your decision and I doubt that the average ob has that much more of a clue on any of this than I do and a lot of those issues are none of our business. Which is why I say trust your own instincts, not us.

f4df · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:50 pm

Twilightkid Wrote:

The general consensus are right...I will probably take the job and give it a shot....And see if i can negotiate to work at home more after the training period. Providing for the fam is important, but not at the expense of never seeing them...

If you take the job and even ditch it in a week, at least while you are waiting for the next opportunity, you wont be asking yourself whether you should have taken it.

If you take it and you work out well from the employers perspective, but it begins to wear you down to the point where you are considering ditching it, its easier to then go in and make demands about your time.

In the end, taking it means job vs. no job at the moment & not second guessing your decision to let the only opportunity you've had in a while slip by.

Z · **Joined:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:38 pm **Posts:** 7979

it worked out ok for this guy, right?

Kingfish · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:45 pm

Senator GAR in 2010! Wrote:

The other thing is - I get home after he's asleep probably 4 nights a week. Will it be hard? yes. Should you take the fucking job? In this economy even considering says a lot about you. Good things and bad things about you from certain perspectives.

Right now, I get home after the girls are asleep 2 nights a week. Starting in Aug. that will be 5 nights a week. I hate it. I'd rather spend time with them more than anything else. But my personal desires have to be on the backseat if they want diapers, food, etc.

Stone · **Joined:** Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:27 am **Posts:** 1562

Well, you should feel lucky for a couple reasons:

(1) You get to have your kids around all the time when you are home. Some of us aren't that lucky.

(2) You have a job offer. Many do not, and cannot provide for their family.

I would think you would feel better about yourself, and that would be reflected in your general mood, by having a job and providing for your family (even if it means less time with them). For me, I wouldn't see it even as a choice to make.

nobody · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:27 pm

Hell, I don't have kids to come home to, but I still get pissed about working late because I miss good bar time.

timmyjoe42 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:53 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

Yeah, but you're fluent in idjit.

and ironically you turned out to be the dumbie in this thread.

Leon · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:13 pm

I feel like you having a job would probably be best for your kids in the long run. The more money you have the more you can do for them, such as saving for college, etc.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:17 am

tentoze Wrote:

Go to work and keep looking locally. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

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Twilightkid · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:11 am

Yail Bloor Wrote:

tentoze Wrote:

Go to work and keep looking locally. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

Thread could have been locked after this post.

True...But sometimes ya need to hear a bunch of variations of the same answer to have it ingrained in your head...
I'm not officially making a decision till tomorrow, but I am taking the job...The boss want me there, so he has agreed to make arrangements for better housing twice a month to allow the family to come down a few days every other week as well...that probably sealed the deal...

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:13 am

Oh shit that's a really, really good concession. Take this job (and do no shove it).

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:18 am

and there is a Baja Fresh right around the corner! It's gets sweeter by the moment.

Flying Rabbit · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:36 am

Are you going to going to be in DC-proper, or the 'burbs of MD or VA?

discostu · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:43 am

Twilightkid Wrote:

Yail Bloor Wrote:

tentoze Wrote:

Go to work and keep looking locally. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.

Thread could have been locked after this post.

True...But sometimes ya need to hear a bunch of variations of the same answer to have it ingrained in your head...
I'm not officially making a decision till tomorrow, but I am taking the job...The boss want me there, so he has agreed to make arrangements for better housing twice a month to allow the family to come down a few days every other week as well...that probably sealed the deal...

Ah, cool. Sounds like a good compromise and a good sign that this is the right job.

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:45 am

Flying Rabbit Wrote:

Are you going to going to be in DC-proper, or the 'burbs of MD or VA?

The office is a block outside of Dupont Circle, so he told me he'd get me some housing within easy walking distance...

He had me at the Dupont Hotel for my stay, but that is a bit too first class for me...lol

Flying Rabbit · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:24 pm

That's cool. There used to be some good used vinyl-oriented record stores in Dupont. Hit me up when you get settled. I'd be down for a meet-up.

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:45 pm

Flying Rabbit Wrote:

That's cool. There used to be some good used vinyl-oriented record stores in Dupont. Hit me up when you get settled. I'd be down for a meet-up.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Flying Rabbit Wrote:

That's cool. There used to be some good used vinyl-oriented record stores in Dupont. Hit me up when you get settled. I'd be down for a meet-up.

There's also some pretty good bars nearby. Brickskeller is the only one I can recall by name but there was a pretty good brewpub right off the circle with tons of beers on tap and a classier place with a huge fireplace which is nice in the winter. And by way of warning, its NOT called the fireplace which is a pretty scary looking gay bar. I have no idea though if any of those places are still open. I haven't been out drinking in DC in about 15 years.

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:51 pm

My new boss told me that Dupont was a Geighborhood...

Thats alright...Only bars I would frequent on my own are ones that will have a dish and show the Yankee games....otherwise, id be at book stores, or in front of my computer in my hotel room with mlb.tv on

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:18 am

I guess if I needed a sign 'from above' on why i should have taken this job...

My first Monday night.

Harlem ('Hippies' is currently my favorite record of the year) is playing at a club called DC9.

I took the job! and I am soooo seeing Harlem that night to celebrate!

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Tue Apr 20, 2010 12:51 am

Wow...Just got back from the Harlem show. They were great...

bu besides that, does the DC in Washington DC stand for douche chills??? because this was the biggest hipster douche crowd i have ever seen....wow..just wow....mustaches....shitty sweaters....members only jackets with the sleeves up, and drinking schlitz beer and not because it is cheap.....wow

DC, I am going to keep it real, when tomorrow I go on my lunch break and pick up this....

Flying Rabbit · **Posted:** Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:09 am

Haha, yeah there's quite a contingency of rich kids who pop into the city to catch shows.

MontyTheMongoose · **Posted:** Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:33 am

Twilightkid Wrote:

Wow...Just got back from the Harlem show. They were great...

bu besides that, does the DC in Washington DC stand for douche chills??? because this was the biggest hipster douche crowd i have ever seen....wow..just wow....mustaches....shitty sweaters....members only jackets with the sleeves up, and drinking schlitz beer and not because it is cheap.....wow

DC, I am going to keep it real, when tomorrow I go on my lunch break and pick up this....

I've got the 'stache, & I drink Schlitz for reason other than price -- but, hell, it made my town famous. Eff you haters, then.

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