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I usually root for the underdog but for some reason always want to see Phil win. Tonight watching his walk to the scoring booth was especially satisfying.

...and thank you Tiger for that after match, ungrateful to your fans interview which re-affirmed my long standing opinion that you are a self-centered fucking asshole that deserves no sympathy whatsoever. You are the Evil Empire Yankees of golf, IMO.


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Agree on Tiger. I dislike him so much these days.


Because you are a girl who also hates black people. Get over yourself.



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There's one thing to pull for greatness, but it's another to pull for some corporate shill to the end. He could've been a normal human being and acted like it but he has tried to do spin control to the very end. I feel sorry for him. He's been trained all his life to be some kind of automaton. I'd have respected him more for showing anything human. He's the sports Michael Jackson. I could care less how many skanks he's plugged.

I know ZERO about these guys as human beings but he simply comes off to me like a guy who simply doesn't get it. I'll never believe he's doing anything genuine.

What? You want me to respect his game???? Nothing is fucking promised in anything. Dude has acted like a fucktard and treated the public like dummies. Get over myself???

Seriously?

Hey man, the Lakers need another bandwagon.........get on Kobe cock while you still can!!


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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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Rick Derris Wrote:
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Agree on Tiger. I dislike him so much these days.


Because you are a girl who also hates black people. Get over yourself.



I'm Lovin' IT!!

Seriously though.....JUST DO IT!!

Hey man! POWER GLIDE SHAVE!!!



There's one thing to pull for greatness, but it's another to pull for some corporate shill to the end. He could've been a normal human being and acted like it but he has tried to do spin control to the very end. I feel sorry for him. He's been trained all his life to be some kind of automaton. I'd have respected him more for showing anything human. He's the sports Michael Jackson. I could care less how many skanks he's plugged.

I know ZERO about these guys as human beings but he simply comes off to me like a guy who simply doesn't get it. I'll never believe he's doing anything genuine.

What? You want me to respect his game???? Nothing is fucking promised in anything. Dude has acted like a fucktard and treated the public like dummies. Get over myself???

Seriously?

Hey man, the Lakers need another bandwagon.........get on Kobe cock while you still can!!


Whatevs, I don't need my athletes to be nice guys or even human--I don't want to be friends with them, I just want them to fucking entertain me. Same goes for actors, musicians or any other performer.

I mean for fuck sakes, Derris you're a Nascar fan and you're saying I'm rooting for a corporate shill? Every guy out there on that course today WISHES they could be half the shill Tiger Woods is and every guy on that course today is making a hell of a lot more money playing golf than they would be had Tiger Woods never come along. And that's not because Tiger is a good guy or even a good salesman--it's because he is so good at golf that people want to turn on their teevees and watch him kick ass.

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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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oddly enough, both derris AND bloor are correct

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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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Whatevs, I don't need my athletes to be nice guys or even human--I don't want to be friends with them, I just want them to fucking entertain me. Same goes for actors, musicians or any other performer.

I mean for fuck sakes, Derris you're a Nascar fan and you're saying I'm rooting for a corporate shill? Every guy out there on that course today WISHES they could be half the shill Tiger Woods is and every guy on that course today is making a hell of a lot more money playing golf than they would be had Tiger Woods never come along. And that's not because Tiger is a good guy or even a good salesman--it's because he is so good at golf that people want to turn on their teevees and watch him kick ass.



I agree with you for the most part. I don't make any morality judgements for anyone in the public eye like they are and don't really care what they do in their personal lives. But, I do think that the human element is what can make a simple sporting event into a transcendent moment. That is why I don't find Woods particularly rootable. I don't find much human about him. I honestly believe he's only been doing interviews and saying all the appropriate things simply because he wants to make sure the gravy train keeps rolling. I do not blame him one bit but I also don't need to pull for him. I mean, he might be the best at playing golf than anyone I've ever seen do ANYTHING this side of Mike Jordan and I think if his 4th place finish reminds us of anything it's that he still going to shatter Nicklaus's Major Wins records. I just would rather root for other dudes.

Mickelson's all too human storyline of the week made Tiger's comeback seem so frivolous and cheap IMO.

I just have my gut feeling on these dudes and honestly isn't that how one chooses a person to pull for when it comes to individual sports like golf or NASCAR or tennis anyway?

Not sure where I was going with the commercial slogans up there. I watched almost the whole tourney on the deck of the westside Six Feet Under knocking back some co-colas.

As for NASCAR, I always feel like it's almost tongue in cheek with it's over the top shilling for sponsors but I also think they depend on those dollars WAY more than the PGA. If the Major Championships never got another dollar I think they'd still go on (certainly the Masters would)


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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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As for NASCAR, I always feel like it's almost tongue in cheek with it's over the top shilling for sponsors but I also think they depend on those dollars WAY more than the PGA. If the Major Championships never got another dollar I think they'd still go on (certainly the Masters would)


The only tongue-in-cheek in NASCAR is the fans' tongues pushing against the Cope and Redman in their mouths.


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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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I am not manipulated by the media

BUT, their manipulation sold me on the cancer-wife guy

Also, I have NO IDEA how modern sports works despite working at a company that helped subsidize an entire industry and my chick working for a Corporate Shill Network.



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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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interesting blog post regarding Tiger. And for the record, I'm of the same mind as Derris when it comes to Tiger.

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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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I watched part of it only in hopes that someone in the gallery would call Tiger out and create some drama. The only person that called Tiger out was Tiger (that I saw/heard anyway), and that was for his golf play.

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I am the most insecure asshole on the entire planet and have at one point or another been a complete dick to every person in my life.

I will bash and mock the country club culture while desperately seeking acceptance among their ranks. I need validation for every fucking thing I do and joining a country club, even though I loathe golf, will help me get more of said validation.

I say it's about contacts and a business move but I think everyone knows better.


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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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It's HARD to get Derris that riled up.

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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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Whatevs, I don't need my athletes to be nice guys or even human--I don't want to be friends with them, I just want them to fucking entertain me. Same goes for actors, musicians or any other performer.

I mean for fuck sakes, Derris you're a Nascar fan and you're saying I'm rooting for a corporate shill? Every guy out there on that course today WISHES they could be half the shill Tiger Woods is and every guy on that course today is making a hell of a lot more money playing golf than they would be had Tiger Woods never come along. And that's not because Tiger is a good guy or even a good salesman--it's because he is so good at golf that people want to turn on their teevees and watch him kick ass.



I agree with you for the most part. I don't make any morality judgements for anyone in the public eye like they are and don't really care what they do in their personal lives. But, I do think that the human element is what can make a simple sporting event into a transcendent moment. That is why I don't find Woods particularly rootable. I don't find much human about him. I honestly believe he's only been doing interviews and saying all the appropriate things simply because he wants to make sure the gravy train keeps rolling. I do not blame him one bit but I also don't need to pull for him. I mean, he might be the best at playing golf than anyone I've ever seen do ANYTHING this side of Mike Jordan and I think if his 4th place finish reminds us of anything it's that he still going to shatter Nicklaus's Major Wins records. I just would rather root for other dudes.

Mickelson's all too human storyline of the week made Tiger's comeback seem so frivolous and cheap IMO.

I just have my gut feeling on these dudes and honestly isn't that how one chooses a person to pull for when it comes to individual sports like golf or NASCAR or tennis anyway?

Not sure where I was going with the commercial slogans up there. I watched almost the whole tourney on the deck of the westside Six Feet Under knocking back some co-colas.

As for NASCAR, I always feel like it's almost tongue in cheek with it's over the top shilling for sponsors but I also think they depend on those dollars WAY more than the PGA. If the Major Championships never got another dollar I think they'd still go on (certainly the Masters would)


Fair enough, and for the record I actually like and root for Lefty on the regular (he's LEFTY after all), but hey, I've always rooted for Tiger as well so why should I stop now? I'm not his wife or his kids so his "actions" don't harm me in any way. Get in the hole!

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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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interesting blog post regarding Tiger. And for the record, I'm of the same mind as Derris when it comes to Tiger.

http://gawker.com/5515208/tiger-woods-h ... ed-nothing


regarding this article (and a few of the posts here) i just dont understand what you want from a guy who is as competitive as tiger. his livelihood is based around being competitive. he knows he's better than how he played and he was pissed because of it. and the soundbytes that were taken shortly after were taken right after he got done. dude was playing for a 1.3 million dollar check. i think he got like 300k. i dont know about you but if i lost a million because of my own fuckups (ie that putting fuckup on 14) i'd be steaming, not prancing around trying to hug and be all chummy w/ the field. sure he's a robot, but i just dont understand why people expect him to be mr. nice guy all of a sudden. the goal is to beat everyone, and that's all he's ever known. and he came up short on a huge stage. he's always been like this so i dont know why its a surprise. sure he said that he was trying to change, but its his first time back for fucks sake.

sure the dude is an asshole off the course, but who in the fuck cares. if you think he's the only one you are seriously naive

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after it all went down he should have just shrugged his shoulders and said 'what can i say. i love to fuck skanks.' and thatd be it

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It's hard to quantify saying that Tiger is a corporate whore robot AND criticize him for being pissed off and dropping a bunch of salty language when he fucks up. A robot (or someone who was obsessed with their corporate image) would never do that.

God knows I've seen Greg Maddux and Bobby Cox spout more foul language on TV than Deadwood and no one ever said they were disappointing the kids.

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I really just want to know which of the major tournaments could survive without corporate sponsorship. And don't forget that the $1B or so CBS paid for broadcast rights counts as corporate sponsorship. Well, that and the gloves, shoes, clubs, shirts, bags, balls, visors, hats, condoms, jizz rags, green jackets, and hole flags all being provided by vendors.

Man, that $3 pimiento cheese sandwich really brings me back to a simpler time. And the $3 beers make me forget about the $500/round tickets.

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It's hard to quantify saying that Tiger is a corporate whore robot AND criticize him for being pissed off and dropping a bunch of salty language when he fucks up. A robot (or someone who was obsessed with their corporate image) would never do that.

God knows I've seen Greg Maddux and Bobby Cox spout more foul language on TV than Deadwood and no one ever said they were disappointing the kids.


except for a robot programmed to only swear and fuck

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I really just want to know which of the major tournaments could survive without corporate sponsorship. And don't forget that the $1B or so CBS paid for broadcast rights counts as corporate sponsorship. Well, that and the gloves, shoes, clubs, shirts, bags, balls, visors, hats, condoms, jizz rags, green jackets, and hole flags all being provided by vendors.

Man, that $3 pimiento cheese sandwich really brings me back to a simpler time. And the $3 beers make me forget about the $500/round tickets.


Wow, you couldn't be more wrong: First of all, CBS does not have a multi year broadcast deal. It's a one year contract that gets renewed every year but the Masters will pull it at anytime if CBS refused to comply to it's standards which includes allowing only four minutes an hour of commercials (as opposed to 12 or more minutes in a normal broadcast). Consequentially, the Masters doesn't ask for or receive as much money as they could.

Secondly, those items that they are selling onsite are Masters items not some corporations.

Thirdly, if you added upall the tickets they sell, it still wouldn't cover their costs of putting on the event: They are able to put this on an make money because they have the membership that pays for it.

So they are A. dictating there be less commercials by big corporations B. selling their own goods C. selling tickets at a price dictated by the laws of supply and demand to defer the costs of running the even and D. paying for the rest from their members.

That sounds like running a business to me. Maybe you and Barack Obama would prefer they take a government handout to run this thing? Why do you hate the free market, Dave?

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Senator GAR in 2010! Wrote:
I really just want to know which of the major tournaments could survive without corporate sponsorship. And don't forget that the $1B or so CBS paid for broadcast rights counts as corporate sponsorship. Well, that and the gloves, shoes, clubs, shirts, bags, balls, visors, hats, condoms, jizz rags, green jackets, and hole flags all being provided by vendors.

Man, that $3 pimiento cheese sandwich really brings me back to a simpler time. And the $3 beers make me forget about the $500/round tickets.


cant you say that for any big sports thing ever? hello, the fucking SUPERBOWL is what like 3mil for a 30 second spot?

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 Post subject: Re: The Masters 2010
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I can make you one guarantee - The Members are getting paid somewhere, making The Masters a corporation unto itself.

Wait, I can make you TWO guarantees - CBS makes more money on this the entire state output of every Georgia-BASED corporation combined, or they wouldn't fucking do it.

Because, unlike you, and say Mitt Romney, I don't want to saddle a business with a bunch of unneeded debt to attempt to make money through some takeover shell game.

Tell me again about market-based decisions?

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