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The bigger issue is that far too many people only buy into democracy when their team wins.


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Elvis Fu Wrote:
The bigger issue is that far too many people only buy into democracy when their team wins.


Perfectly stated.


You have a good point here, TCB, but I am talking about the mood of the electorate as a whole, not, as I said a few posts up, the urine soaked, diaper eating gun nuts of the tea party. I think they are a facile way of looking at, and dismissing, genuine anger.

A new Pew poll finds historic levels of unhappiness about the federal government and its role in the lives of average Americans, unrest that is at the foundation of what is shaping up to be a strongly anti-incumbent political year.

The current conditions in public opinion amount to a "perfect storm" of disgust/distrust toward government, according to Pew poll director Andy Kohut, who cites "a dismal economy, an unhappy public, bitter partisan-based backlash, and epic discontent with Congress and elected officials" as the critical factors in this building tempest.

While the report -- all 140 pages of it -- is chock full of great data, a few numbers stand out as typifying the current discontent coursing through the public.

* Roughly one in five voters (22 percent) said they can trust the government in Washington always or almost always, the lowest ebb on that question in 50 years.

* Just 38 percent said the federal government has an overall positive effect on their daily lives while 43 percent see its impact as broadly negative. Those numbers mark a considerable reversal from an October 1997 Pew poll when 50 percent said the government had a positive effect on their lives while 31 percent said it had a negative one.

* The public blames Members of Congress more than the system itself for their malaise. A majority (52 percent) said the political system can work but Members are the problem. Roughly one in three (31 percent) blame the system, not the Members.

Those soaring levels of dissatisfaction have to worry incumbents of both parties -- although the electoral pain will almost certainly be felt more by Democrats since, well, they have a lot more incumbents in the House and Senate.

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goddam that's disgusting


Somewhere between revolting and awe-inspiring really.

Productivity Manager at huge chain: "Man, we can really get more man-hours out of our employees and ring people up more efficiently if we don't have to have someone ladling that just-ad-water-gravy over those frozen biscuits."

Marketing Genius: "What about a Gravy Dispenser?"

VP of Division: "Can you make the opening big enough that I can fit my CHEST under the opening? SCORE!!!!"

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Senator GAR in 2010! Wrote:
FT Wrote:
Elvis Fu Wrote:
The bigger issue is that far too many people only buy into democracy when their team wins.


Perfectly stated.


You have a good point here, TCB, but I am talking about the mood of the electorate as a whole, not, as I said a few posts up, the urine soaked, diaper eating gun nuts of the tea party. I think they are a facile way of looking at, and dismissing, genuine anger.

A new Pew poll finds historic levels of unhappiness about the federal government and its role in the lives of average Americans, unrest that is at the foundation of what is shaping up to be a strongly anti-incumbent political year.

The current conditions in public opinion amount to a "perfect storm" of disgust/distrust toward government, according to Pew poll director Andy Kohut, who cites "a dismal economy, an unhappy public, bitter partisan-based backlash, and epic discontent with Congress and elected officials" as the critical factors in this building tempest.

While the report -- all 140 pages of it -- is chock full of great data, a few numbers stand out as typifying the current discontent coursing through the public.

* Roughly one in five voters (22 percent) said they can trust the government in Washington always or almost always, the lowest ebb on that question in 50 years.

* Just 38 percent said the federal government has an overall positive effect on their daily lives while 43 percent see its impact as broadly negative. Those numbers mark a considerable reversal from an October 1997 Pew poll when 50 percent said the government had a positive effect on their lives while 31 percent said it had a negative one.

* The public blames Members of Congress more than the system itself for their malaise. A majority (52 percent) said the political system can work but Members are the problem. Roughly one in three (31 percent) blame the system, not the Members.

Those soaring levels of dissatisfaction have to worry incumbents of both parties -- although the electoral pain will almost certainly be felt more by Democrats since, well, they have a lot more incumbents in the House and Senate.


I don't disagree there's some discontent, and obviously you have your thumb on this a lot more than I do; however, I have doubts about any singular, actionable direction that the discontent is actually going to take. Obviously the Democrats will lose seats in November, but you're right that it's because they have more seats to lose.

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VP of Division: "Bring the prototype into my office along with a basket of fresh biscuits and DO NOT OPEN THE DOOR NO MATTER WHAT YOU HEAR"

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[quote="Bloor"]He's either done too much and should stay out of the economy, done too little because unemployment isn't 0%, is a dumb ingrate who wasn't ready for the job or a brilliant mastermind who has taken over all aspects of our lives and is transforming us into a Stalinist style penal economy where Christian Whites are fed into meat grinders. Very confusing[/quote]


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:48 pm 
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It's interesting that the one pictured is RIGHT NEXT TO the soda fountain spiggots. Like, this whole thing is about people who want to drink gravy but don't want to be judged. "Annnd if I slip my cup a little to the left... who's to say?"

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It's interesting that the one pictured is RIGHT NEXT TO the soda fountain spiggots. Like, this whole thing is about people who want to drink gravy but don't want to be judged. "Annnd if I slip my cup a little to the left... who's to say?"

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That looks like something at a gas station and not a free standing Bob Evans.


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That looks like something at a gas station and not a free standing Bob Evans.




... uh huh?

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
It's interesting that the one pictured is RIGHT NEXT TO the soda fountain spiggots. Like, this whole thing is about people who want to drink gravy but don't want to be judged. "Annnd if I slip my cup a little to the left... who's to say?"


Ha ha.

I'm sort of surprised that no one is commenting on the biscuit dispenser, which might be more amazing.

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timmyjoe42 Wrote:
That looks like something at a gas station and not a free standing Bob Evans.




... uh huh?


A free standing Bob Evans dispenses more than just gravy.


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At the time of my '94 high school report on the subject, Bob Evans was the most profitable restaurant chain in the country.

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Had to post this for the coterie of Tim & Eric fans here on the Ob. A buddy sent it to me in an e-mail "Why didn't you tell me you were at Coachella!"




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Senator GAR in 2010! Wrote:
FT Wrote:
Elvis Fu Wrote:
The bigger issue is that far too many people only buy into democracy when their team wins.


Perfectly stated.


You have a good point here, TCB, but I am talking about the mood of the electorate as a whole, not, as I said a few posts up, the urine soaked, diaper eating gun nuts of the tea party. I think they are a facile way of looking at, and dismissing, genuine anger.

A new Pew poll finds historic levels of unhappiness about the federal government and its role in the lives of average Americans, unrest that is at the foundation of what is shaping up to be a strongly anti-incumbent political year.

The current conditions in public opinion amount to a "perfect storm" of disgust/distrust toward government, according to Pew poll director Andy Kohut, who cites "a dismal economy, an unhappy public, bitter partisan-based backlash, and epic discontent with Congress and elected officials" as the critical factors in this building tempest.

While the report -- all 140 pages of it -- is chock full of great data, a few numbers stand out as typifying the current discontent coursing through the public.

* Roughly one in five voters (22 percent) said they can trust the government in Washington always or almost always, the lowest ebb on that question in 50 years.

* Just 38 percent said the federal government has an overall positive effect on their daily lives while 43 percent see its impact as broadly negative. Those numbers mark a considerable reversal from an October 1997 Pew poll when 50 percent said the government had a positive effect on their lives while 31 percent said it had a negative one.

* The public blames Members of Congress more than the system itself for their malaise. A majority (52 percent) said the political system can work but Members are the problem. Roughly one in three (31 percent) blame the system, not the Members.

Those soaring levels of dissatisfaction have to worry incumbents of both parties -- although the electoral pain will almost certainly be felt more by Democrats since, well, they have a lot more incumbents in the House and Senate.


Another by-product of "the Dems have more seats to lose" is that their primaries aren't wide-open backyard brawls like the Poobican primaries. Since the establishment hacks are non grata, right wingers are coming out of the woodwork.

And there will another Congressman Paul come November.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
timmyjoe42 Wrote:
That looks like something at a gas station and not a free standing Bob Evans.


... uh huh?


The gravy dispenser looks like something that would be at a gas station/ quickie mart next to the hot dog rolling machine, as opposed to being inside a Bob Evans restaurant. Was the photo taken in a restaurant?


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timmyjoe42 Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
timmyjoe42 Wrote:
That looks like something at a gas station and not a free standing Bob Evans.


... uh huh?


The gravy dispenser looks like something that would be at a gas station/ quickie mart next to the hot dog rolling machine, as opposed to being inside a Bob Evans restaurant. Was the photo taken in a restaurant?


Oh Timmy :nono:

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Senator GAR in 2010! Wrote:
timmyjoe42 Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
timmyjoe42 Wrote:
That looks like something at a gas station and not a free standing Bob Evans.


... uh huh?


The gravy dispenser looks like something that would be at a gas station/ quickie mart next to the hot dog rolling machine, as opposed to being inside a Bob Evans restaurant. Was the photo taken in a restaurant?


Oh Timmy :nono:


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