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 Post subject: Damon Albarn is 'Up There With Hendrix' says Bobby Womack
PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 12:33 pm 
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Gorillaz guest vocalist Bobby Womack has said he believes Damon Albarn is as creative as Jimi Hendrix and Ray Charles.

Soul legend Womack, who made his live performance comeback after a stage absence of 15 years at the Gorillaz' recent Roundhouse shows, told The Sun that Albarn reminded him of some of the finest artists he has worked with.

"He's the same way [as Hendrix and Charles were]. He's very creative and thinks way out there, trying things that people don't try."

Womack -- who provided vocals for 'Stylo' and 'Cloud of Unknowing' on Gorillaz' third album 'Plastic Beach' -- also admitted he had no idea who Gorillaz were before Albarn approached them but is enjoying his time performing with the ever-expanding army of musicians and singers.

"There ain't no egos, these guys are cool," he said. "These guys know me better than I do."

Looking ahead to Gorillaz Autumn arena shows, including two dates at London's O2 Arena in September, Albarn told The Sun getting everyone together was a logistical nightmare: "You just don't get too stressed and accept that sometimes it's going to work out and sometimes it's not."

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Flattering for Albarn, but I question Womack's frame of reference. Damon is undoubtedly 1000x more creative than I, but exactly how many contemporary musicians has Womack been around?


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While Damon Albarn hasn't had as much of an impact on music as Hendrix or Ray Charles I'd agree that he is equally creative. Also I reach for his music much more than the other two.

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Well that was a nice thing for him to say.


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 Post subject: Re: Damon Albarn is 'Up There With Hendrix' says Bobby Womack
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Flattering for Albarn, but I question Womack's frame of reference. Damon is undoubtedly 1000x more creative than I, but exactly how many contemporary musicians has Womack been around?


Given that he didn't compare Albarn to any contemporary musicians, why does it matter?


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discostu Wrote:
Flattering for Albarn, but I question Womack's frame of reference. Damon is undoubtedly 1000x more creative than I, but exactly how many contemporary musicians has Womack been around?


Given that he didn't compare Albarn to any contemporary musicians, why does it matter?


I guess that was my way to say "Nice thing to say, but take this with a grain of salt"


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While Damon Albarn hasn't had as much of an impact on music as Hendrix or Ray Charles I'd agree that he is equally creative. Also I reach for his music much more than the other two.


agree with all of this.


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discostu Wrote:
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discostu Wrote:
Flattering for Albarn, but I question Womack's frame of reference. Damon is undoubtedly 1000x more creative than I, but exactly how many contemporary musicians has Womack been around?


Given that he didn't compare Albarn to any contemporary musicians, why does it matter?


I guess that was my way to say "Nice thing to say, but take this with a grain of salt"



I take it more as Stu likes PPDD more than Albarn which is all fine and good but really irrelevant since Womack was comparing Albarn to Hendrix and Charles who I don't think anyone disputes that he knows well, not PPDD artists.


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 Post subject: Re: Damon Albarn is 'Up There With Hendrix' says Bobby Womack
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Okay, I'll say it: it's stunningly ridiculous to place Albarn in the same sentence as Hendrix and Charles.


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While Damon Albarn hasn't had as much of an impact on music as Hendrix or Ray Charles I'd agree that he is equally creative. Also I reach for his music much more than the other two.


agree with all of this.


You'd actually reach for Modern Life is Rubbish over Are You Experienced??

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Dalen Wrote:
Leon Wrote:
While Damon Albarn hasn't had as much of an impact on music as Hendrix or Ray Charles I'd agree that he is equally creative. Also I reach for his music much more than the other two.


agree with all of this.


You'd actually reach for Modern Life is Rubbish over Are You Experienced??


Yes. I have a lot of respect for Hendrix and recognize him for being a genius, but it's something that I'm rarely in the mood for. I happen to really love Brit Pop and consider Blur to be one of the top acts. It's simply a matter of taste, I'm definitely not arguing that hes as good of a musician as Hendrix, he's not, but I think he's equally creative. Must admit that I haven't listened to enough Ray Charles to have a solid opinion of him.

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"He's the same way [as Hendrix and Charles were]. He's very creative and thinks way out there, trying things that people don't try." "


Although on second look the first sentence is misleading. I don't think that Womack was saying that Albarn was as "creative" but rather that his process was similar to Charles and Hendrix. Which makes more sense I think, especially seeing how Womack has worked with all three.

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Dalen Wrote:
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While Damon Albarn hasn't had as much of an impact on music as Hendrix or Ray Charles I'd agree that he is equally creative. Also I reach for his music much more than the other two.


agree with all of this.


You'd actually reach for Modern Life is Rubbish over Are You Experienced??


i didn't say that. i said that i tend to listen to blur quite a bit more than hendrix or ray charles.


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Dalen Wrote:
DumpJack Wrote:
Dalen Wrote:
Leon Wrote:
While Damon Albarn hasn't had as much of an impact on music as Hendrix or Ray Charles I'd agree that he is equally creative. Also I reach for his music much more than the other two.


agree with all of this.


You'd actually reach for Modern Life is Rubbish over Are You Experienced??


i didn't say that. i said that i tend to listen to blur quite a bit more than hendrix or ray charles.


When you agreed with someone who said he'd 'reach for his music much more than the other two' I thought that equated with my question, but perhaps I was being a bit too specific.

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Blur, Mali Music, Gorillaz, TGTBTQ...I'd say Damon Albarn is pretty damn creative. His works aren't going to change the face of music in the way Hendrix or Charles did but does that mean he's automatically less creative? I took it as a nice throwaway compliment that I'm not sure is true but isn't as easy to quickly refute as if he said that Albarn is as important or as talented as Hendrix and Charles.

Also, There are also lots of days I'd reach for TGTBTQ over "Are You Experienced?" or "Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music."


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I took it as a nice throwaway compliment that I'm not sure is true but isn't as easy to quickly refute as if he said that Albarn is as important or as talented as Hendrix and Charles.


This makes sense. Also, it seems that if you are willing to admit that people will disagree over what 'creative' means- the statement probably ends up saying a lot less.


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DumpJack Wrote:
Dalen Wrote:
DumpJack Wrote:
Dalen Wrote:
Leon Wrote:
While Damon Albarn hasn't had as much of an impact on music as Hendrix or Ray Charles I'd agree that he is equally creative. Also I reach for his music much more than the other two.


agree with all of this.


You'd actually reach for Modern Life is Rubbish over Are You Experienced??


i didn't say that. i said that i tend to listen to blur quite a bit more than hendrix or ray charles.


When you agreed with someone who said he'd 'reach for his music much more than the other two' I thought that equated with my question, but perhaps I was being a bit too specific.


i can see how you arrived there. but yeah, i'm a HUGE hendrix fan, but an even bigger blur fan.


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Dalen Wrote:
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While Damon Albarn hasn't had as much of an impact on music as Hendrix or Ray Charles I'd agree that he is equally creative. Also I reach for his music much more than the other two.


agree with all of this.


You'd actually reach for Modern Life is Rubbish over Are You Experienced??


I would.

But then that's my favorite Blur and my least favorite Hendrix (of course, "least favorite" in this space being tantamount to "worst holiday" or "shittiest day I got to sleep in.")

Damon Albarn is one of the most creative lyricists and musicians of our time. That might sound like hyperbole, but I think the fact that we are living while he is still creating colors the view a bit. I don't know if I would consider him as creative (denotatively speaking) as Charles or Hendrix, but I don't think it's crazy to talk about Albarn in such a manner.


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Dalen Wrote:
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While Damon Albarn hasn't had as much of an impact on music as Hendrix or Ray Charles I'd agree that he is equally creative. Also I reach for his music much more than the other two.


agree with all of this.


You'd actually reach for Modern Life is Rubbish over Are You Experienced??


i didn't say that. i said that i tend to listen to blur quite a bit more than hendrix or ray charles.


Appreciate the honesty, and concur. Own all the studio albums and the boxset, plus multiple DVDs of concerts, etc. but I have to be in the mood.

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It's just womack's opinion.

Question... if albarn had demonstrated the same variety of output at the same rate, but was historically concurrent with charles or hendrix, could he have been as influential? I think he could have potentially been more influential, but you can't pick when you're born.

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Okay, I'll say it: it's stunningly ridiculous to place Albarn in the same sentence as Hendrix and Charles.


I just came in here to make sure this point was made.


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It's just womack's opinion.

Question... if albarn had demonstrated the same variety of output at the same rate, but was historically concurrent with charles or hendrix, could he have been as influential? I think he could have potentially been more influential, but you can't pick when you're born.



Granted, Im not much of a fan, but still that would require us to ignore the 25+ years of musical history he was able to draw on.....hard to say what he would or would not have been able to do without those years in between.


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Until reading this thread, I'd never heard of Damon Alban.


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