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Pieced together from outtakes and much-labored-over songs, Sticky Fingers manages to have a loose, ramshackle ambience that belies both its origins and the dark undercurrents of the songs. It's a weary, drug-laden album -- well over half the songs explicitly mention drug use, while the others merely allude to it -- that never fades away, but it barely keeps afloat. Apart from the classic opener, "Brown Sugar" (a gleeful tune about slavery, interracial sex, and lost virginity, not necessarily in that order), the long workout "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" and the mean-spirited "Bitch," Sticky Fingers is a slow, bluesy affair, with a few country touches thrown in for good measure. The laid-back tone of the album gives ample room for new lead guitarist Mick Taylor to stretch out, particularly on the extended coda of "Can't You Hear Me Knocking." But the key to the album isn't the instrumental interplay -- although that is terrific -- it's the utter weariness of the songs. "Wild Horses" is their first nonironic stab at a country song, and it is a beautiful, heart-tugging masterpiece. Similarly, "I Got the Blues" is a ravished, late-night classic that ranks among their very best blues. "Sister Morphine" is a horrifying overdose tale, and "Moonlight Mile," with Paul Buckmaster's grandiose strings, is a perfect closure: sad, yearning, drug-addled, and beautiful. With its offhand mixture of decadence, roots music, and outright malevolence, Sticky Fingers set the tone for the rest of the decade for the Stones.

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Also, lotta horns on this rekkid. Gives a lot of the songs a real soulful feel, and foreshadow's Exile's sounds.

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From the opening riffs and the first line, you know you're in for something here. People have probably heard "Brown Sugar" a million times and never stopped to listen, and realize it starts out "Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields...."

Not sure I agree with the review that this is a "slow" album, as it starts out with a barn burner, then the EVIL raunch of Sway, and the best breakdown in rock and roll of "Can't You Hear Me Knockin."

I never really liked "You Got To Move" until I watched Gimme Shelter and heard Mick over do it "YOOO GOTT TEEE MOOOOVE" in the studio.

Bitch is another awesome rock song, and how they gloss over Dead Flowers in the above synopsis is beyond. If I only listen to it once a year, you can bet that song gets played before The Kentucky Derby in my house much louder than "My Old Kentucky Home"

The 3 song closer of Sister Morphine --> Dead Flowers --> Moonlight Mile just ads to the stoned and dethroned drug addled mystique of the band at this point.

Great fucking album, and even though it's 8:30 AM as I type this, I had to get up and do a little leg kicking and rooster walking when I queued up Brown Sugar.

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"Bitch" is probably my favorite Stones song.

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the best breakdown in rock and roll of "Can't You Hear Me Knockin."

I dunno about that, unless you like the way the breakdown turns a great (GREAT) rocker into lounge muzak.

But otherwise you're right on the mark. This is the one Stones album that gives Exile a run for its money IMO. I think the Stones "found" themselves on Beggar's Banquet, and then really channeled all their influences into a truly original, singular, recognizable sound on "Gimme Shelter", and Sticky Fingers is the culmination of that journey. This is the Stones living up to their own mythology as "world's greatest rock and roll band". They're their own galaxy at this point, emitting layers of arrogance, decadence, and jaded depravity in (almost) every note. "Brown Sugar" is bedrock. "Sway" and "Moonlight Mile" dig so deep it's almost frightening. The only misstep is that gotdarned breakdown in "Can't You Hear Me Knockin'".


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Senator Lou Garra Wrote:
the best breakdown in rock and roll of "Can't You Hear Me Knockin."

I dunno about that, unless you like the way the breakdown turns a great (GREAT) rocker into lounge muzak.

But otherwise you're right on the mark. This is the one Stones album that gives Exile a run for its money IMO. I think the Stones "found" themselves on Beggar's Banquet, and then really channeled all their influences into a truly original, singular, recognizable sound on "Gimme Shelter", and Sticky Fingers is the culmination of that journey. This is the Stones living up to their own mythology as "world's greatest rock and roll band". They're their own galaxy at this point, emitting layers of arrogance, decadence, and jaded depravity in (almost) every note. "Brown Sugar" is bedrock. "Sway" and "Moonlight Mile" dig so deep it's almost frightening. The only misstep is that gotdarned breakdown in "Can't You Hear Me Knockin'".


I always saw that as needing to throw some cold water on your face and just chill out for a second in the middle of a couple days-long bender.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Seems like 70% of the bands around town do a cover of Dead Flowers at least occasionally. And, I still get happy when they play it every time.


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I'm just on Let it Bleed. The mandolin playing on "Love in Vain" is inspired :wink:


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billy g Wrote:
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Wasn't really a comment on quality, more quantity.

All Stones related could mean upwards of 70 albums if you include bootlegs (Jamming With Edward, Black Box sessions, etc)


Agreed then.


Don Was was talking about the sheer volume of Rolling Stones recordings at that Exile event I went to last week. He said there's a warehouse the size of a city block that contains nothing but stones tapes. He also said that they went through $250K worth of tape in recording Bridges to Babylon alone and that Mick sent him 2 harddrives worth of unreleased material from which he picked the extras for the Exile reissue. He said that Mick had always hated going back and listening to all that old stuff but got really into the process once they got going. He said Mick seemed so happy with it that there's probably a much better chance of a lot more stuff seeing the light of day than he would have guessed in the past.

Also, speaking of stones related, anyone ever heard Keef's reggae recordings:

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billy g Wrote:
Rick Derris Wrote:
Wasn't really a comment on quality, more quantity.

All Stones related could mean upwards of 70 albums if you include bootlegs (Jamming With Edward, Black Box sessions, etc)


Agreed then.


Don Was was talking about the sheer volume of Rolling Stones recordings at that Exile event I went to last week. He said there's a warehouse the size of a city block that contains nothing but stones tapes. He also said that they went through $250K worth of tape in recording Bridges to Babylon alone and that Mick sent him 2 harddrives worth of unreleased material from which he picked the extras for the Exile reissue. He said that Mick had always hated going back and listening to all that old stuff but got really into the process once they got going. He said Mick seemed so happy with it that there's probably a much better chance of a lot more stuff seeing the light of day than he would have guessed in the past.

Also, speaking of stones related, anyone ever heard Keef's reggae recordings:

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http://www.winglessangels.com/about.htmWingless Angels


Apparently there's a new album coming out this year. LOMIT!


Was produced DIRTY WORK - of course Mick likes him.

They should have given this project to Rick Rubin.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Senator Lou Garra Wrote:
billy g Wrote:
billy g Wrote:
Rick Derris Wrote:
Wasn't really a comment on quality, more quantity.

All Stones related could mean upwards of 70 albums if you include bootlegs (Jamming With Edward, Black Box sessions, etc)


Agreed then.


Don Was was talking about the sheer volume of Rolling Stones recordings at that Exile event I went to last week. He said there's a warehouse the size of a city block that contains nothing but stones tapes. He also said that they went through $250K worth of tape in recording Bridges to Babylon alone and that Mick sent him 2 harddrives worth of unreleased material from which he picked the extras for the Exile reissue. He said that Mick had always hated going back and listening to all that old stuff but got really into the process once they got going. He said Mick seemed so happy with it that there's probably a much better chance of a lot more stuff seeing the light of day than he would have guessed in the past.

Also, speaking of stones related, anyone ever heard Keef's reggae recordings:

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http://www.winglessangels.com/about.htmWingless Angels


Apparently there's a new album coming out this year. LOMIT!


Was produced DIRTY WORK - of course Mick likes him.

They should have given this project to Rick Rubin.


I don't really have any opinion on Was as a producer but why Rubin?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:10 pm 
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billy g Wrote:
Senator Lou Garra Wrote:
billy g Wrote:
billy g Wrote:
Rick Derris Wrote:
Wasn't really a comment on quality, more quantity.

All Stones related could mean upwards of 70 albums if you include bootlegs (Jamming With Edward, Black Box sessions, etc)


Agreed then.


Don Was was talking about the sheer volume of Rolling Stones recordings at that Exile event I went to last week. He said there's a warehouse the size of a city block that contains nothing but stones tapes. He also said that they went through $250K worth of tape in recording Bridges to Babylon alone and that Mick sent him 2 harddrives worth of unreleased material from which he picked the extras for the Exile reissue. He said that Mick had always hated going back and listening to all that old stuff but got really into the process once they got going. He said Mick seemed so happy with it that there's probably a much better chance of a lot more stuff seeing the light of day than he would have guessed in the past.

Also, speaking of stones related, anyone ever heard Keef's reggae recordings:

Code:
http://www.winglessangels.com/about.htmWingless Angels


Apparently there's a new album coming out this year. LOMIT!


Was produced DIRTY WORK - of course Mick likes him.

They should have given this project to Rick Rubin.


I don't really have any opinion on Was as a producer but why Rubin?


Really anyone but Was, whose work is way to polished for the Stones, especially when listening to the difference between the early and later period records.

But I think someone like Rubin, considering what he did with Cash, would be great to scrape the sheen and the bullshit off of Mick and make a real roots record, as opposed to what Mick has pursued for the last 25-30 years.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Senator Lou Garra Wrote:
billy g Wrote:
Senator Lou Garra Wrote:
billy g Wrote:
billy g Wrote:
Rick Derris Wrote:
Wasn't really a comment on quality, more quantity.

All Stones related could mean upwards of 70 albums if you include bootlegs (Jamming With Edward, Black Box sessions, etc)


Agreed then.


Don Was was talking about the sheer volume of Rolling Stones recordings at that Exile event I went to last week. He said there's a warehouse the size of a city block that contains nothing but stones tapes. He also said that they went through $250K worth of tape in recording Bridges to Babylon alone and that Mick sent him 2 harddrives worth of unreleased material from which he picked the extras for the Exile reissue. He said that Mick had always hated going back and listening to all that old stuff but got really into the process once they got going. He said Mick seemed so happy with it that there's probably a much better chance of a lot more stuff seeing the light of day than he would have guessed in the past.

Also, speaking of stones related, anyone ever heard Keef's reggae recordings:

Code:
http://www.winglessangels.com/about.htmWingless Angels


Apparently there's a new album coming out this year. LOMIT!


Was produced DIRTY WORK - of course Mick likes him.

They should have given this project to Rick Rubin.


I don't really have any opinion on Was as a producer but why Rubin?


Really anyone but Was, whose work is way to polished for the Stones, especially when listening to the difference between the early and later period records.

But I think someone like Rubin, considering what he did with Cash, would be great to scrape the sheen and the bullshit off of Mick and make a real roots record, as opposed to what Mick has pursued for the last 25-30 years.


I think Rubin polished up the vocals of those Cash recordings way too much. I love the concept of those albums and how they rescued Cash's career which is admittedly largely to Rubin's credit but I really like the recordings inspite of Rubin's production not because of it.


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Exile is a better album but Sticky Fingers is my favorite. Midnight Mile has laid its cool, cool hand on my brow more than a few times. I get heated and overdramatic, but this album almost killed me and most certainly kept me alive.

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I've missed this whole thread but I will say that as far as Sticky Fingers goes, "I've Got The Blues" has always stood out to me as a really unique thing in an album that is totally unique.

Also, I"ve listened to "Moonlight Mile" in a daze as the sun comes up mumbling "with a head full of snow" more times than I care to recall...And "Sway" still makes me want to destroy all of the furniture in whatever room I'm in when it comes on. The Stones is just that powerful.

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It's the only album to put on if you've got days of booze sweat and you're contemplating the transitional drink.

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But I think someone like Rubin, considering what he did with Cash, would be great to scrape the sheen and the bullshit off of Mick and make a real roots record, as opposed to what Mick has pursued for the last 25-30 years.


Funny, but I just can't see billionaire Stones trying to toss a record out made of believable hard luck, lost god, wayward times, whore hootin' no matter who the producer is and sound like the Stones.

Off topic: This thread has been a great read. It has literally walked me through the Stones' years with those whom I consider the most reputable of opinions on the subject. I certainly have learned what I like and don't from this band.


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Off topic: This thread has been a great read. It has literally walked me through the Stones' years with those whom I consider the most reputable of opinions on the subject. I certainly have learned what I like and don't from this band.


I can't wait for next week.

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I know I'm pissing in the wind in this thread, but it all peaked with Let It Bleed for me.



So far I agree and the rise to Let It Bleed and reading about the way to there has been fun if not a "cliff's notes" of subjective discourse. And, well, I look forward to posts about albums from when I first heard the Stones as a kid in the 70's. For nostalgia purposes there is a lot I like from those albums though dissenters I am sure there will be.


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