How so?
Boise State, BYU, TCU and Utah all together in one conference makes the MWC more formidable than the WAC, Big East and ACC are currently.

Also:

http://omaha.com/article/20100611/NEWS/ ... he-big-ten




Edit: It is indeed official. Harvey Perlman, President of Nebraska is currently holding a local press conference in regard to the decision to move to the Big Ten.

Sure, a few of the teams are more recognizable, but it's still not a power conference by any stretch of the imagination. Boise State and Utah should be in the PAC-10.

Deadspin does a better job of encapsulating my thoughts on the matter:



http://deadspin.com/5561231/boise-state-to-mountain-west-course-of-human-existence-wac-football-irrevocably-altered

[quote="Rick Derris"]
Kansas is basketball bedrock. Why wouldn't you want them?
/quote]

Lemme let you in on a little something: save a couple of weeks in March and April, nobody gives a flying fuck about NCAA hoops. I realize the prism through which you view this is skewed by your common law connection to UNC but trust me on this one. Nobody. Cares.

Also, don't take this the wrong way but your genuflecting for some simpler time is not only ill conceived but also sickening. Wake up, Derris: college sports have never and never will be some pure-as-the-drive-snow palace where competition and the will of young men rule the day. That's a sham to get rubes to buy penants, season tickets and Coca Colas.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent ... 8114a.html

Pac-15?

It looks like the vast majority of the Big 12 South is joining with or without A&M going along for the ride.

The new Big 12?

Kansas
Kansas State
Iowa State
Missouri
Memphis
Boise State

Tulane
Rice
Houston
SMU
UTEP
TCU

Ripped this idea from a Deadspin comment (in which a reunion of the SWC was suggested). So, I tweaked it.

Actually I almost like this... it's back to the Pac 8.

Remember when the ACC created the football super conference when they added Miami, Fla St, and Va Tech. Seems quaint now.

As I remember it, the acc wasn't thrilled about bringing in va tech because they really brought nothing to the table. Now they're a perennial power in football. I want the acc to trade them to the sec for Kentucky, and then annex Kansas and Louisville, but I can't think of a catchy name for what the new beast would be called.

Yeah, it took a threat against UVA by Gov. Mark Warner to involve the NCAA and I believe to withold state funding to get the Hokies into the League.
Without them though, the ACC wouldn't have been much of a league this decade with the struggles of FSU, since Miami didn't join until after their last title run.

they should have let UVA and VA Tech join the big east. it'd be worth it to get rid of UVA.

Ugh.

I smell a "bidding" war between the SEC and Pac-10 for Texas.

That ain't happening unless the SEC absolutely caves on the TV contract revenue sharing plan and makes an exception for the Longhorns.
They want to continue to be unabated in their quest to make as much money as possible. The Pac-10 TV deal ends in 2011 like the Big 12 deal, so either the Longhorns salvage the Big 12 to keep all the cash to themselves or get a desperate Pac-16 to give them a more than fair deal.
Just one of the many reasons, Nebraska went to the Big Ten and A&M has strongly considered the SEC is to get a more equitable share of tv revenues and to insure they don't fall too far behind Texas in the college football arms race.

latest rumor here locally (as of this morning) is that a&m is leaving for the sec, but texas is staying in the big 12 (or what's left of it)

I had only read about Dan Beebe's big plan to get a tv contract similar to the SEC that would guarantee each remaining Big 12 school 17 million dollars, while still allowing Texas to have its own Network.
I don't see how they get that kind of money from any network , especially if the Aggies leave.
They have already lost roughly 10% of their tv market with Nebraska jumping ship, and losing A&M would guarantee that they didn't have at least three additional quality tv matchups a year. They'd be left with the Red River rivalry game and few stellar non-conference match-ups.

All schools in the Sec can have their own network. The espn contract is strictly for games. Fla made 10 mil outside of the sec contract last year. That's why the sec deal is better than the big 10 network.

But I'm assuming they'd still play A&M each year, as a non-conference game, and probably have tv rights every other year.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5284375

Looks like Texas is going to lose out on that independent tv deal.
It seems like everyone but the Longhorns believes that the Beebe plan has "zero chance" of success, and the majority of those schools with an invite to the Pac-10 want to take it.

So you're saying that I don't know how sports works in the modern era, am a dupe that is an idiot for buying into the tradition and pageantry of college sports, and a dupe for believing in any of it?

Yeah, how could I possibly take that the wrong way.

I fail to see anything I've posted that you could read as some doe-eyed view of the past. I'm merely lamenting the fact that all we've heard about is the money, the money, the money and I think the traditions and rivalries are suffering at the hand of the almighty dollar. I realize football is driving it all (like I stated earlier) but you're wrong that nobody cares about basketball. Of course it doesn't compare to football's numbers but they DO make money and football doesn't make you money year 'round.

You really think if Kansas were to end up in some small time conference and ended up becoming a 3rd rate program, college basketball wouldn't have lost something?

I know you're Mr. Bottom Line but I'm not, nor ever will buy your brand Bloor. I do still believe in will of young men and the ability of college sports to inspire and transcend the sport itself sometimes. The idea of money driving everything might be true but it's sad and uninspiring. You may say I'm simply a sucker or have my head in the sand but fuck it, it's better than going through life with a cold, dead, cynical heart.

Man, really? 10 million?

I don't think they're allowed their own network but they can sign their own TV deals with XYZ Broadcast company, etc.

But, I think that only allows you to show the scrub sports and the "last pick" football and bball games after ESPN and CBS have picked over the best games of the conference.

The other good thing with the ESPN deal is that they've got cash in hand. If the SEC has a down year and ratings somehow drop, that money is guaranteed. Also, ESPN already has the cache and structure to hit the ground running. I think the Big 10 struggled when it started but is now doing really well.

the only thing a&m brings with them these days is the houston tv market (college station is an hour outside houston, so it's close enough to be considered connected on at least a tertiary level) and a musty tradition that is fading with each passing year of mediocre on-field product

now THAT is cutting a promo!

Derris, I got that info from an interview from slive about networks and fla making 10 mil.

Just read that Texas has turned down the Pac-10 invite.