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Because I feel rushed due to the constant chatter about the newest album posted, I rushed through Let it Bleed and Beggars Banquet at work and am now getting to Sticky Fingers (which I've spent time with in the past). My proper stereo isn't hooked up at home so I can't spend the time with these they deserve which is exactly what I didn't want to happen. Guess it's time to burn them to disc and listen in the car on road trip to STL next weekend, or get my lazy ass to hook up my stereo with its Infinity bookshelfs that don't really fit anywhere. UGH.


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I'm not nearly the Stones fan as many on here, but I kinda retroactively went and dug into some of the older albums talked about in this thread and I gotta say I enjoyed stuff like England's Newest Hitmakers a lot more than I expected. I'd only heard most of the older songs on hits collections, but that whole album for one example, just has a great garagey feel all the way through that I can easily get in to...even if it is heavy on the covers.

You're still not gonna sell me on much Stones past the 70s, but the golden era stuff is really good and the early stuff I'll probably start playing a lot more than I would have thought.


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did we skip Ya-Yas?


I think we're doing live albums, famous boots, some essential solo albums etc. after the basic studio run.

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FUCK IT. GREATEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME


I don't track my own listening stats, digitally or otherwise, but I bet I reach for this record almost as much as Exile; So overall, I likely listen at least once a month. Does that speak to the brilliance of the album or my abysmal taste? Clearly the former.

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I really want to hear the unessential ones...just for shits and giggles...the more drug addled the better.

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Sex, Drugs, and Dave Wrote:
I really want to hear the unessential ones...just for shits and giggles...the more drug addled the better.


Just wait until it's me and Dumpjack listening to Jamming With Edward, the 1977 Some Girls Tour Rehearsals, and shit like their take on "Da Doo Ron Ron" and "Drift Away."

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Goats Head Soup is pretty good. I can see why people think it's a step down for the unfuckwithable Let it Bleed - Exile, but I think someone else said it here that if it was any other band than the Stones, then a lesser band could've made a career of that record.


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im still way back on beggers and let it bleed too. im finding it harder and harder to like these albums. now! was definitely the peak for me so far.

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Senator Lou Garra Wrote:
Sex, Drugs, and Dave Wrote:
I really want to hear the unessential ones...just for shits and giggles...the more drug addled the better.


Just wait until it's me and Dumpjack listening to Jamming With Edward, the 1977 Some Girls Tour Rehearsals, and shit like their take on "Da Doo Ron Ron" and "Drift Away."


And "Claudine #1"

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During the mid-'70s, the Rolling Stones remained massively popular, but their records suffered from Jagger's fascination with celebrity and Keith's worsening drug habit. By 1978, both punk and disco had swept the group off the front pages, and Some Girls was their fiery response to the younger generation. Opening with the disco-blues thump of "Miss You," Some Girls is a tough, focused, and exciting record, full of more hooks and energy than any Stones record since Exile on Main St. Even though the Stones make disco their own, they never quite take punk on their own ground. Instead, their rockers sound harder and nastier than they have in years. Using "Star Star" as a template, the Stones run through the seedy homosexual imagery of "When the Whip Comes Down," the bizarre, borderline-misogynistic vitriol of the title track, Keith's ultimate outlaw anthem, "Before They Make Me Run," and the decadent closer, "Shattered." In between, they deconstruct the Temptations' "(Just My) Imagination," unleash the devastatingly snide country parody "Far Away Eyes," and contribute "Beast of Burden," one of their very best ballads. Some Girls may not have the back-street aggression of their '60s records, or the majestic, drugged-out murk of their early-'70s work, but its brand of glitzy, decadent hard rock still makes it a definitive Stones album.


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I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH JAM

There are days when I think this is 3rd best Stones album after SF and Exile.

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I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH JAM

There are days when I think this is 3rd best Stones album after SF and Exile.


I have it slotted behind Black and Blue, but not very far behind it. They're bound together like SF and Exile.

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im still way back on beggers and let it bleed too. im finding it harder and harder to like these albums. now! was definitely the peak for me so far.


I suggest an immediate prescription of hot lead. A steel jacketed anti-depressant to the back of your head should do the trick.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
I JUST DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH JAM

There are days when I think this is 3rd best Stones album after SF and Exile.


This is the one that started me down this crazy train road. Anyone thinking that this doesn't represent a peak in their career is imposing some kind of personal bias brought on by believing The Clash and The Sex Pistols' malarky about bands like The STones and the Who being dinosaurs.

This fucker is a MONSTER. Miss You is a sop to Mick's disco obsession. When the Whip Comes down is as fine an ode to being a teenage male prostie as Marky Ramone could have imagined, and they continue with their Motown jones and cover The Temps again. Then you get to the meat:

"Why'd you name the album Some Girls?"

"Because we couldn't remember any of their fucking names"

Lies is just a straight ahead rocker, and you get Keef on rhythm and hear what Ronnie ads - workman like guitar to a working band.

Far Away Eyes is often mocked as Schlock-Country, but I find their take on this to be enjoyable, especially the "Church of the Sacred, Bleeding Heart"

Respectable is a fuck you to the world, that Mick would sing "Get out of my life, don't fuck my wife" during his divorce gets a chuckle out of me. "You're a rag trade girl, you're the queen of porn - You're the easiest lay on the white house lawn - get out of my life, don't come back."

Before They Make Me Run is the soundtrack to every move I've ever made, and every change you can make in your life. "Booze and pills and powders, you can choose your medicine. It's just another goodbye to another good friend."

Beast of Burden, like Street Fighting Man, is one of the few Stones songs that everyone seems to love that sets my teeth on edge. Not a big fan.

And then you have Shattered -- New York in the 70s. Edgy, drugged out, Reggie Jackson, Summer of Sam, Disco, cocaine and SEX AND SEX AND SEX AND SEX.

Fuck. Yes.

I won't argue that this is pretty much the last of the finest - they're 15 years into a 50 year career - and they certainly have some great songs, but aside from the re-tooled outtakes collection of Tattoo You, this is the last great ALBUM they would release.

And now, we get to the denouement. Bring me a Vodka and Orange Crush and an 8 ball. I quit drinking Brown Liquor and stopped shooting Brown Drugs.

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As a testament to my overall opinion of the Stones, I'd just about completely forgotten about this album. In light of that admission, I'll modify my earlier statement about the rush to oblivion being complete with the issuance of Black and Blue- this is a pretty good album as long as I consciously suppress memories of 714's, The Bump, and Jagger doing those silly chicken struts.


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Senator Lou Garra Wrote:
This is the one that started me down this crazy train road.


Same here. I was working at Follett's Textbook Exchange on Baxter. It was the week before sophomore year and the store was closed for inventory. "Voodoo Lounge" had just come out and a guy from work had it playing over the store's system. To my surprise I was liking it. Started talking to to him about it and decided then and there to pick up something older by them. This is the album. Back then, "Imagination" was my jam off of this. Still is the best cover they've done post-Aftermath for me.

More than any of their other records, this, to me, is the sound of late nights at The Roadhouse.


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I always have sing 'Shattered' at top volume whenever it comes on, irregardless of setting or company present.

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"Voodoo Lounge" had just come out and a guy from work had it playing over the store's system. To my surprise I was liking it.


I know I'm jumping the gun here, but that's their best post-Tattoo You album by a mile.

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I always have sing 'Shattered' at top volume whenever it comes on, irregardless of setting or company present.


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If your first exposure to the RS world-view was in the time of Voodoo Lounge (and all classic work is seem through that lens), I suppose this is an acceptable album. But experiencing each album through the times they were released, and feeling the contemporaneous development of the mythos and its decay, this is an album of the RS playing at being the RS (as have all subsequent albums), not ACTUALLY being the RS. And while there were whole tours (until recently) where they were still able to Invoke the Beast while playing live, they never made a complete album that was a "Stones" credo with credibility.

Individual songs were still great "pop" songs or even "rockers", but the promised entropy did deliver, and it left an "aging blues man" and a "London school of economics alumnus in post-middle age." And that static trajectory was well in place by Some Girls. Make no mistake, the residue of the RS is better than most bands in full bloom.

And, I am one who thinks Beast of Burden is a good song... it almost seems like it means something rather than just an cynical joke.

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Senator Lou Garra Wrote:
Anyone thinking that this doesn't represent a peak in their career is imposing some kind of personal bias

Senator Lou Garra Wrote:
This is the one that started me down this crazy train road.


Yeah, I think we just found your personal bias. You were one of those kiddies that came of age to this album. Congrats.

Harry nailed it. This was a good album, but it wasn't the Stones so much as the Stones Inc. - a corporate entity serving up product for the shareholders. "Miss You" and "Before They Make Me Run" somehow managed to preserve the band's mystique, but the rest of it doesn't come close to "the greatest rock 'n' roll band in the world" - at this point they've EARNED the ironic quotes around that phrase.


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More than any of their other records, this, to me, is the sound of late nights at The Roadhouse.


"Get a girrrrrrrrl........with faaaaaaaaaaraway eyyyyyeeeees....."


Yes, and epic shout alongs to Shattered. And sneaking in and out of the bathroom(s) - "No, you go ahead, I'm going to go into the stall"

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I have to think, Rads that part of your dislike of this album has as to do with your coming of age musically--let's face it, songs like "When the Whip Comes Down" and "Respectable" are the Stones apingdoing a style of music that you hold near and dear to your heart.

But whatever, the Stones can do disco-ish funk, proto garage punk, straight up rock and roll and tongue in cheek country on one album and still have it sound good 30+ years later and other bands can't.

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Ummmm, "Time Waits for No One".... is this fucking Phish? :wink:

I'm on It's Only Rock and Roll and I'm dropping out after Some Girls.

Rick Derris Wrote:
More than any of their other records, this [Some Girls], to me, is the sound of late nights at The Roadhouse.


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And sneaking in and out of the bathroom(s) - "No, you go ahead, I'm going to go into the stall"


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Ummmm, "Time Waits for No One".... is this fucking Phish? :wink:

I'm on It's Only Rock and Roll and I'm dropping out after Some Girls.


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