No shit -- check this out.

http://costs.adoption.com/

LMAO!!!

That had me in stitches. Thanks.

Tania, I almost find Chris's suggestion somewhat endearing. awww.. but yes he's right, find a friend to ermm..help you out.

And I agree you'd make a wonderful mom. You've already been a great mom to the rest of us here, even those of us who aren't young enough to be your kids.

And Laura is right, you really really need to be prepared to say goodbye to your social life.

Even though I was married at the time I had Charlie I wasn't prepared for some of what I had to give up. And it really upset me for a long time, I was 26 when I had him. And I think for a short while I resented being saddled down.

And though right now I really want to have more kids and as soon as possible, I'm definitely waiting just a teeny bit longer before we try.

I thought about it and realized there was still a bit more I wanted to enjoy before I was home with two kids or more. So I'm thinking next year at the latest..

for me, one of the great things about having kids when i was older (33) was that i had done a lot of running around and was much more patient than i would have been in my 20's.

To Ayah:

I've said it before and I'll say it again -- you are such an inspiration. You're the type of mother I can only aspire to be (aside from my own, of course...she's pretty damn groovy herself). I think it's wonderful how much time you devote to your children. And from your stories, it's only apparent how much they love you in return.

You were the person I most wanted to hear from and I will definitely mail you with more questions. Thank you so much!

best of luck tania. I wish I had good advice for you I know nothing about having kids. yet.

And ayah, will you be my internet mother

I too wish I had something intelligent to say, but as you can tell from short history with cmj and obner...I still laugh at the word poopy.

edit: Good luck. I hope it works out.

i'll chime in too- best of luck to you, hope everything works out.

If Tania was frostingspoon, she'd have changed her user name to Ovum Fixation, just for this thread.

You'll make a wonderful mama, T! The world needs more quality parents.

Lemme go on a mini-rant as a way of telling you not to let other's opinions of single-motherhood bother you.

I just Googled "non-traditional families" looking for a percentage of how many kids nowadays are brought up in something other than the traditional nuclear family. I couldn't find exactly what I was looking for, but I did read something that says that less than 25% of all households in the U.S. are two-parents-with-kids households--and that figure includes divorced parents-with-children who have remarried. So making a completely unscientific guess, I'm gonna say that between 20 and 40% of children nowadays are brought up in non-traditional (divorced, single, cohabiting or same-sex parents) households.

One rebuttal I never see in all the talk about how two-parent families are the best for children is to look at what they are implying--that non-traditional families are bad for children. Bullshit. They are saying that you children of divorce, or of single moms, or of gay parents, are worse off, more disadvantaged, more screwed up than children of nuclear families.

Does growing up without a father around doom you to a life of crime? Does having two mommies turn you into an anti-social loner? Does having your parents divorce guarantee a lifetime of psychotherapy? And does having a traditional family mean any of those things won't happen?

And even without the hyperbole, if traditional families do statistically produce some small percentage more of well-adjusted kids (which I imagine is possible, though under whose definition of "well-adjusted"?), does this imply that the children of non-trad families are somehow worth less as people, that they are damaged goods? Is it too risky for the future life and health of a child to allow it to be born to a single mother or a gay dad? Of course not. It is the love and support of a family, and not its demographic makeup, that is important.

Non-traditional families are not wrong or worse, they are different. Asking if growing up in a nuclear family is better than growing up in a non-traditional family is like asking if growing up in New York is better or worse than growing up in Nebraska. They are different, and that is all.



Undercoating.

Ok, that's it. Lumpy, wanna donate some sperm?

As long as you don't do drugs, relate to freaks on Springer, or have been a walk-on on COPS I'll support you. What the hey, even if you have I'll support you. I love you! Wanna be supported? I asked the same thing to my trousers but his lips were zipped up and the only gestures he made were to the floor. Reminds me of a girl I knew, but nevermind my mother, when are we getting supported?

(Series of distasteful replies, many involving , and even , thankfully avoided.)

I am sorry if this is totally inappropriate but Opa, are you gay or is this joking around? I am totally not being faceous and it's none of my business I am not on here enough to catch everything.

and tania, I think you should do whatever you want. My cousin adopted a baby from China and she is a single mom and it's been 5 years and they are a fantastic family.

When people ask me, I like to say that I personally don't like labels. I do, however, have relations with men...and sometimes, although very rare, with women. To be frank, to me, an orgasm is an orgasm regardless of where it comes from. Now if you were to ask who would I spend the rest of my life with, I'd say a man. A woman can never satisfy my needs on a long term regular basis. I hope that answers your question.

it totally answers my question and I apologize if I was throwing out labels, not my intention. I just remember stories of you and girls on line and then I thought people were teasing and then I was totally confused

/thread hijack

No offense taken.

Hey, Chris, quit trying to steal my potential sperm donor thread!!

Oh wow, T... I wish I could offer you some personal advice but I know nothing about having kids. I can tell you this much, don't let being a single mother bring you down- I grew up in a broken home full of drug abuse, physical abuse, and violence (with a single mother) and I turned out just fine (or so I think I did )

But seriously, all joking aside, you have always been a wonderful inspiration to me from the time I've known you and I know you will make a fantastic mother if you choose to do this. Best of luck to you, T!

Stop hitting on me...


You know im a southern gentleman and that direct shit makes me nervous...