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PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:51 am 
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This game has lived up to billing.

My opinion of Boise remains even if they come back here. They are a great team/program but it's the grind that gets you respect. Until a playoff or they get out of that conference they'll never get true respect.


I'll give them credit for having something similar to Sooner Magic that allows them to somehow win a game after they essentially squander it away, but they had Virginia Tech on the ropes after taking a 17-0 lead and couldn't put them away early. That sort of thing doesn't fly in most of the BCS conferences, and the truly good teams keep it going until there is absolutely no chance for a comeback.

Virginia Tech was making a shit ton of uncharacteristic mistakes on Special teams, were one dimensional on offense much of the night and have an inexperienced defense. They might run the table in the ACC and prove that Boise State is a truly great team this year, or they can go on to lose a few down the road and show that they were overrated and the Broncos got a break playing them with a high ranking early on in the season.

Either way, I still have difficulties viewing Boise State to be like the Alabamas and Ohio States of the BCS.

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Rick Derris Wrote:
This game has lived up to billing.

My opinion of Boise remains even if they come back here. They are a great team/program but it's the grind that gets you respect. Until a playoff or they get out of that conference they'll never get true respect.


Looked like a top five team. If they go undefeated they should be in championship game unless Alabama and Ohio State also go undefeated. Simply no 1 loss should rank above this team.



In week 1, what is a Top 5 team? Also, way to make a call before a 1000 games are played.

You really think an Alabama team, that say, loses to Florida at home or a close loss to LSU on the road, but goes 11-1 and beats Florida/UGA/USC in the SEC Championship game shouldn't be in over Boise because they beat VT and Oregon St. Give me a fucking break.

I didn't really know how I'd feel about this until the very end but if this were to happen I think it'd be a travesty worse than seeing Ohio St. back into the Championship game every other year due to a weak schedule and no Conference Championship. You did see the article I posted above yes? The 100th ranked schedule in the country.

I am officially an Boise fucking hater because they also represent everything wrong with the BCS.


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Virginia Tech was making a shit ton of uncharacteristic mistakes on Special teams, were one dimensional on offense much of the night and have an inexperienced defense. They might run the table in the ACC and prove that Boise State is a truly great team this year, or they can go on to lose a few down the road and show that they were overrated and the Broncos got a break playing them with a high ranking early on in the season.


And I think their Special teams kept them in the game.

I want to be clear that I think Boise deserves TONS of credit and ARE a great team but I also think winning in week 1 is important towards Championships but go play 3 top 20 teams in November after a long season.


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Also I didn't even mention the bump/pass interference call that should have been called on Boise State during the 4th down throw near the end of the game. It wasn't blatant, but the Broncos seemed to be having troubles covering a rather pedestrian receiving corp by most people's standards and were called for a fair amount of PI calls early in the game. I think it probably should have been called, especially since that ball would have been caught and most likely taken to the house for a td without it.

What's with Boise State's kicker only being clutch from one side of the field, I certainly wouldn't want to rely on him in a truly clutch situation in the BCS title should they make it.

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Also, the "late hit" call on Boise's last drive was horseshit.

I also find it laughable that the announcers talked about BSU going undefeated like it was already an done deal. You think they would do that if it was Texas/Bama/Ohio St/Oregon/etc?? No, because they know how hard their road is.

The media is going to make me lose my shit over this this year.


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 Post subject: Re: 2010 College Football Thread
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Boise State beat a top ten team in a hostile environment. They were as good as any other team this first week, and duh, yeah there are 1000 games to play but there are these things called polls? We football fanatics like to discuss and speculate? And the level of play, and coming back at the end of a game with no timeouts in a hostile environment was what "BCS Conference teams" should do. Other than Oregon State this was the stage that Boise State could demonstrate their quality. They did.

As far as the bad calls? Gimme a break, there was pass interference on a Boise pass in the endzone ... and the last play was no interference. It evened out at the least.

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Calls become magnified late in the game though and 15 extra yards with 1:30 to go IS a big deal but agree that it's no excuse in the end.

Also, preseason polls are a joke. VT could end up 8-4 as well as Oregon St. If so, they will not save Boise.


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I'm somewhat upset Musberger didn't get a chance to motorboat the goiter of a victorious Frank Beamer, but that shill for the BCS -- eclipsed in hateability only by official SEC fellator Verne Lundquist (who's going to get the slobbered knob now that Tebow is gone, though?) -- having to eat shit late was just about as awesome.


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And the level of play, and coming back at the end of a game with no timeouts in a hostile environment was what "BCS Conference teams" should do. Other than Oregon State this was the stage that Boise State could demonstrate their quality. They did


I agree that a quality BCS conference team is expected to have a chance to make a comeback with no time outs in a hostile environment, but they rarely if ever do that after squandering a 17-0 lead to a fellow BCS team that had early special team miscues, dumb penalties and that was rendered one dimensional by a quality defense. Thus, the reason I still have my doubts about the quality of Boise State. I was impressed by how easily they took the 17-0 early in the game, and then they systematically lost my respect when Virginia Tech was able to take the lead twice in the 2nd half. A real quality BCS foe would have continued to take the Hokies behind the woodshed for a serious drubbing, not let them back into the game.

Also Virginia Tech is now 0-3 in their last three season openers and 0-22 against top five teams away from Blacksburg. I can't give them crap for having troubles against highly ranked teams, since my huskers have had the same sort of problems lately, but they clearly don't have a big game mentality for early season games against highly ranked foes.

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VT has a history of being ranked and then dropping games.

As for the UMD/Navy game...Navy should've pulled that one out. They held onto the ball longer, and had more yardage...on paper this was a Navy win. The Terps D though definitely deserves the game ball. Dang. That goal line stand.

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File under: News harry will love

Reggie Bush to be stripped of his Heisman

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Figured that would happen. Now, let's make this right and give it to Vince Young. No re-vote, just a plain giving it to Vince. Wonder if Reggie will send back his copy?

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File under: News harry will love

Reggie Bush to be stripped of his Heisman

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/n ... sman090710


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I found this factoid to be interesting, after this season Nebraska and Colorado will both be tied for the Big 12 lead in the category of facing highest number of non-conference opponents from other BCS conference opponents.

The current list is:

The total number of BCS teams members of the Big 12 have played in nonconference play in league history:

Nebraska 21

Colorado 20

Oklahoma 17

Iowa State 16

Baylor 15

Texas 14

Missouri 13

Texas A&M 12

Texas Tech 9

Kansas State 7

Oklahoma State 7

Kansas 6

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that is interesting. given nebraska's football history, don't you think that number should be higher? five notches north of iowa state is nothing to high five tommie frazier over. they get paid millions to be stomped on by sec teams.


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that is interesting. given nebraska's football history, don't you think that number should be higher? five notches north of iowa state is nothing to high five tommie frazier over. they get paid millions to be stomped on by sec teams.


The Big 12 has existed for 15yrs, so 22 games against BCS teams is probably about eight short of what it should be if you subscribe to the school of thought that says each BCS team should play two BCS conference teams a year and no FCS teams. Nebraska's choice to schedule any FCS teams this past decade is probably the biggest knock against them, but at least they averaged more than one BCS conference opponent a year. Texas barely qualifies with one BCS conference opponent a year by playing UCLA this year, and they have been the best team in the Big 12 lately.

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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/p ... l=1&week=3
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/p ... l=3&week=3

New Polls are out.
Boise State is #3 in both polls now, my Huskers moved up to #6 in the AP and #7 in the Coaches Poll.
OU and Florida both dropped a bit after non-stellar performances against questionable foes.
Georgia broke into the top 20 in the Coaches poll and Virginia Tech fell to #13 in both polls.

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...and WVU slowly creeps up.

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VT has a history of being ranked and then dropping games.

As for the UMD/Navy game...Navy should've pulled that one out. They held onto the ball longer, and had more yardage...on paper this was a Navy win. The Terps D though definitely deserves the game ball. Dang. That goal line stand.


That one play where the Maryland defender leaped, no, FLEW over the offensive line to sack the Navy quarterback was one of the most amazing plays I've ever seen. (I think it was earlier in the game than that last goal line stand, though.) Looked like "Jefferson" in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Just checked and the guy's name is Adrian Moten.

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VT has a history of being ranked and then dropping games.

As for the UMD/Navy game...Navy should've pulled that one out. They held onto the ball longer, and had more yardage...on paper this was a Navy win. The Terps D though definitely deserves the game ball. Dang. That goal line stand.


That one play where the Maryland defender leaped, no, FLEW over the offensive line to sack the Navy quarterback was one of the most amazing plays I've ever seen. (I think it was earlier in the game than that last goal line stand, though.) Looked like "Jefferson" in Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

Just checked and the guy's name is Adrian Moten.


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Yea that was badass. And it had to be timed perfectly, otherwise he would have looked like an idiot.


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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/polls?poll=1&week=3
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/p ... l=3&week=3

New Polls are out.
Boise State is #3 in both polls now, my Huskers moved up to #6 in the AP and #7 in the Coaches Poll.
OU and Florida both dropped a bit after non-stellar performances against questionable foes.
Georgia broke into the top 20 in the Coaches poll and Virginia Tech fell to #13 in both polls.


In all the years (and that's a shit ton) of watching Florida football, I have never seen a worse offensive performance. Unless they find some serious mojo damned quick, I have doubts about them even having a winning season.


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In all the years (and that's a shit ton) of watching Florida football, I have never seen a worse offensive performance. Unless they find some serious mojo damned quick, I have doubts about them even having a winning season.


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harry Wrote:
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The Heisman Trophy Trust is denying a Yahoo! Sports report that the trust is expected to strip former USC running back Reggie Bush of his 2005 Heisman Trophy and leave the award vacant.

"I can tell you the Heisman Trophy Trust has made no decision regarding the Reggie Bush situation," Robert Whalen, executive director of the Heisman Trophy Trust, told The Associated Press on Tuesday.

Two sources close to the trust told Yahoo! Sports that the organization is completing its investigation and will agree with the NCAA's finding that Bush accepted improper benefits while at USC and was ineligible during the 2005 season, according to the report. The NCAA cited USC for "lack of institutional control" and handed the Trojans four years' probation, a two-year bowl ban and a reduction in football scholarships.

The president of the Heisman Trophy Trust, William J. Dockery, reiterated that the reports were inaccurate.

"The status of the USC/Bush matter remains unchanged. Any reports to the contrary are inaccurate," Dockery said.

ESPN's Chris Fowler told "SportsCenter" that although members of the eight-person trust have had informal conversations among themselves about what to do about Bush's Heisman, "they certainly have not made any decision" about rescinding it.

"They haven't made a decision. No announcement is imminent," Fowler said Tuesday. "They have not had any formal meetings about this."

Dockery has said the Heisman Trophy Trust meets on the second Tuesday of every month.

Bush would become the first player in the 75-year history of the Heisman Trophy to have the award taken away.

In July, USC president C.L. Max Nikias ordered the school's athletic department to return its copy of Bush's 2005 Heisman to the Heisman Trophy Trust. Nikias also ordered the school to remove nearly all references to Bush and former basketball player O.J. Mayo, including murals, as part of the NCAA's directive to disassociate the school from the athletes.

As that time, Bush had not been asked to return his copy and the Heisman Trophy Trust said it had not yet decided whether Bush would be stripped of the award.

Bush met with Heisman representatives last month at the New York law offices of Emmet, Marvin & Martin, the sources said, according to the Yahoo report.

The sources declined to discuss the details of that meeting, according to the report.

Bush now plays for the Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints, who said Tuesday that they would have no comment on the report.

Typically, the Saints have declined comment on Bush's NCAA violations because they have no bearing on his pro career.

Team headquarters also were closed to reporters on Tuesday.

Bush's Los Angeles-based attorney, Shawn Chapman Holley, did not immediately respond to a request for comment from the AP.

Last week, Texas coach Mack Brown said former Longhorns quarterback Vince Young, who finished second in the 2005 Heisman voting to Bush, should be given the award if Bush is stripped. Young led the Longhorns past USC to the BCS national championship that year, after Bush was awarded the Heisman in a landslide.

The NCAA ruled that Bush received lavish gifts from two fledgling sports marketers hoping to sign him. The men paid for everything from hotel stays and a rent-free home where Bush's family apparently lived to a limousine and a new suit when he accepted his Heisman in New York in December 2005.

In July, when USC said it would give back its copy of the 2005 trophy, the Heisman Trophy Trust said it had no timetable on a decision and would make no additional statements on the matter.

"The Trust will be considering the issues raised in the USC/Reggie Bush matter, and after reaching a decision will publish it, but due to the complex issues involved and the Trust's desire to reach an appropriate decision, no definitive timetable has been established," the trust said. "Until the matter has been fully considered and a decision is reached, the Trust has no further comment."

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