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Here is a MUCH better clip of the play I mentioned earlier:


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That's some Super Tecmo Bowl shit right durr.


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C'mon, TCB. Greatness is greatness. I'd have posted this clip even if he'd done it against ND.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5546259

AJ Green might be in more shit over selling his game jersey than he is over the whole agent scandal. You got to be pretty dumb to break a rule that now exists due to a previous scandal involving football players at your school. He'll probably have to follow the Dez Bryant route to the NFL now.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5547721

He officially got suspended for three more games by the NCAA for selling his Independence Bowl jersey to some one defined as an Agent according to NCAA standards, and has since given the proceeds from the sale of his jersey to a charity.

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Yr Midshipmen should've won. I'll admit that definitely.

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Promethium Wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5546259

AJ Green might be in more shit over selling his game jersey than he is over the whole agent scandal. You got to be pretty dumb to break a rule that now exists due to a previous scandal involving football players at your school. He'll probably have to follow the Dez Bryant route to the NFL now.


Four game suspension.

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Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green has been declared ineligible for three more games for NCAA violations stemming from his acceptance of benefits from an agent.

In a statement released Wednesday, the NCAA said Green sold his Independence Bowl game jersey to an individual who meets the organization's definition of an agent. Green has repaid $1,000 to charity.

Green's penalty covers four games. He did not play in 22nd-ranked Georgia's season-opening victory over Louisiana-Lafayette on Saturday.

The university can appeal the decision to the Division I NCAA Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement.


Stupid fucking thing to do, but it could be worse. Dear NCAA, please figure out a way to give these kids some money.

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Ugh.

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Ugh.

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This is colloquially known as "Some Fuck Shit"

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Stupid fucking thing to do, but it could be worse. Dear NCAA, please figure out a way to give these kids some money.


I'm not ready to get on this train yet but something needs to change.

Also, the NFL needs to fucking step up. Never thought I'd say it, but I agree 100% with Saban. Any kid who breaks the rules deserves to pay the penalty but there HAS to be some accountability with the agents.

The NFL has the greatest farm system on earth and they continue to let agents pull this shit. I think this agent needs to be named publicly, suspended for a year from any dealings with the NFL, and if he does it again, banned for life.


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When will a non-Pac 10 school schedule Boise State to a Home-and-Home deal? Only Oregon and Oregon St have taken the challenge.....no other BCS conference school has stepped up.

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When will a non-Pac 10 school schedule Boise State to a Home-and-Home deal? Only Oregon and Oregon St have taken the challenge.....no other BCS conference school has stepped up.


Nebraska offered them a 2 for 1 deal in the spring of 2010 to start in 2014 or 2015, and the Boise State AD turned it down. They aren't going to get a much better deal, unless they schedule a team like Iowa State such as Utah did this year, and even with that the higher rated Utes are going to Ames for the game.
It is simply not a worthwhile venture for one of the elite teams of college football to travel to Boise and play a team that has only lost two home games this decade, especially when their quaint stadium with the blue turf only holds 33,000 and they can only sell it out about twice a year. A team like Nebraska, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc doesn't really gain anything by doing it, since Idaho isn't a recruiting hotbed nor does Boise State have the long tradition or BCS ties that really help in you the polls in regards to their SOS.

Boise State simply needs to bite the bullet and actually follow the anytime, anyplace, anywhere mantra that Bobby Bowden implemented when he led Florida State to becoming a powerhouse in the 1980's and that Fresno State continues to follow. The Bulldogs of the WAC agreed to a 2 for 1 deal with Nebraska without all this postering and trash talking that the Boise State AD seems to enjoy doing so much.

FYI, Ole Miss is also paying Boise State that ridiculous one off fee to play down their next season.

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No SEC team is EVER going to play on a blue field.

Georgia has already played them at home though.

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Yr Midshipmen should've won. I'll admit that definitely.


You shouldn't win with three fumbles inside the ten. :nono: :nono: :nono:

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When will a non-Pac 10 school schedule Boise State to a Home-and-Home deal? Only Oregon and Oregon St have taken the challenge.....no other BCS conference school has stepped up.


Nebraska offered them a 2 for 1 deal in the spring of 2010 to start in 2014 or 2015, and the Boise State AD turned it down. They aren't going to get a much better deal, unless they schedule a team like Iowa State such as Utah did this year, and even with that the higher rated Utes are going to Ames for the game.
It is simply not a worthwhile venture for one of the elite teams of college football to travel to Boise and play a team that has only lost two home games this decade, especially when their quaint stadium with the blue turf only holds 33,000 and they can only sell it out about twice a year. A team like Nebraska, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc doesn't really gain anything by doing it, since Idaho isn't a recruiting hotbed nor does Boise State have the long tradition or BCS ties that really help in you the polls in regards to their SOS.

Boise State simply needs to bite the bullet and actually follow the anytime, anyplace, anywhere mantra that Bobby Bowden implemented when he led Florida State to becoming a powerhouse in the 1980's and that Fresno State continues to follow. The Bulldogs of the WAC agreed to a 2 for 1 deal with Nebraska without all this postering and trash talking that the Boise State AD seems to enjoy doing so much.

FYI, Ole Miss is also paying Boise State that ridiculous one off fee to play down their next season.


This is a chickenshit argument. The big schools don't want to play at Boise because they might get beat. If you don't want to go to their place because you might get beat, you lose all standing to make the "they don't play anybody" argument.

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This is a chickenshit argument. The big schools don't want to play at Boise because they might get beat. If you don't want to go to their place because you might get beat, you lose all standing to make the "they don't play anybody" argument.


Exactly. Its kinda the same as the Lebron issue.

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When will a non-Pac 10 school schedule Boise State to a Home-and-Home deal? Only Oregon and Oregon St have taken the challenge.....no other BCS conference school has stepped up.


Nebraska offered them a 2 for 1 deal in the spring of 2010 to start in 2014 or 2015, and the Boise State AD turned it down. They aren't going to get a much better deal, unless they schedule a team like Iowa State such as Utah did this year, and even with that the higher rated Utes are going to Ames for the game.
It is simply not a worthwhile venture for one of the elite teams of college football to travel to Boise and play a team that has only lost two home games this decade, especially when their quaint stadium with the blue turf only holds 33,000 and they can only sell it out about twice a year. A team like Nebraska, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc doesn't really gain anything by doing it, since Idaho isn't a recruiting hotbed nor does Boise State have the long tradition or BCS ties that really help in you the polls in regards to their SOS.

Boise State simply needs to bite the bullet and actually follow the anytime, anyplace, anywhere mantra that Bobby Bowden implemented when he led Florida State to becoming a powerhouse in the 1980's and that Fresno State continues to follow. The Bulldogs of the WAC agreed to a 2 for 1 deal with Nebraska without all this postering and trash talking that the Boise State AD seems to enjoy doing so much.

FYI, Ole Miss is also paying Boise State that ridiculous one off fee to play down their next season.


This is a chickenshit argument. The big schools don't want to play at Boise because they might get beat. If you don't want to go to their place because you might get beat, you lose all standing to make the "they don't play anybody" argument.



I agree with you Fu but also think Boise's biggest hurdle isn't that teams won't play them, it's that the BCS has made it so they don't have to and why should they??

If Ohio St can continue to get to the National Championship game going through the Big 10 and NOT having a Conference Championship game, why should they make it more difficult for themselves? In the end, the goal is a National Championship not to help out Boise St. Getting involved with Boise on a ego level (you're scared to play us!) is foolish IMO with the current system.


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FYI, Ole Miss is also paying Boise State that ridiculous one off fee to play down their next season.


I'm not sure exactly it's that ridiculous. I know Georgia has paid some small schools upwards or $600,000 or more to come collect a check and a beating.

Seems like Boise would be worth it. Even if it's Ole Miss, the storyline of Boise vs an SEC opponent will have cache with a national audience and will certainly get a prime slot on the ESPN schedule. It'll certainly create more revenue than say Ole Miss vs Arkansas St, etc.

If I'm Boise and you aren't willing to come play at my place, then yeah, you're gonna pony up some cash.


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It's not really chickenshit, it is just a common sense and fiscally prudent thing for teams for major college football programs to do in the BCS era. There is simply no incentives to risking a loss at Boise State for the reasons I previously mentioned, when you can rely on your conference games to keep your SOS rating where it needs to be to qualify for a BCS bowl game. All the MAC, WAC, and MWC that are demanding a big pay day for a one off game and/or a home and home are merely crippling their chances of ever adding a premier opponent to their future schedules, especially when you look at how conference realignment effects non conference scheduling.
Take for example, the Nebraska Football schedule for next year. Boise State wanted one million dollars to play the Huskers in Lincoln next season, but Nebraska had already signed two for one deals with Fresno State and Wyoming for a fraction of that cost, and would be finishing up their home and home series with Washington while starting a conference slate that included games against Wisconsin, Michigan, Iowa, Ohio State and Penn State. What reward does Nebraska gain paying Boise State $1,000,000 to come for a one off game, when they can pay a regional FCS team like South Dakota State to take a beating for under $400,000 to yet another sell out crowd?
Boise State is simply not located in a place or have the facilities to draw or demand a big time opponent to make a trip for a road game, maybe they should consider paying the Big Boys money to come to Idaho or trying to get a neutral site game in Denver or Seattle at an NFL stadium. It's pretty telling, when fledgling D-I program UTSA is able to get a home and home against Arizona State because they play at the Alamo Dome and are located in the recruiting hotbed of Texas and that a team like Boise State that is ranked #3 in the country struggles to sell out a 33,000 seat stadium for a game against NMST for only $35 a ticket.

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Ohio State will have to play in a conference title game in 2011 in Indianapolis to make the BCS title game due to realignment, so that argument goes away.

FYI, Nebraska is paying Idaho $800,000 for the rent a win game this week, and paid the three Sun Belt teams they played last year roughly the same.
As for tv, unless you play in a conference like the Pac-10 or Big 12 where you can receive X amount of dollars for playing in a Marquee game due to an unequal distribution of revenue sharing, I don't really see how the ESPN game pays you all that more than that home game against Arkansas State. Nebraska tends to make a shit ton of money off of placing these rent a win games on PPV, and next year they'll all be on the Big Ten network.
I just don't think a #3 rated team in the country can have the same sort of asking price as the schools that are taking a pay check in return for taking a beating, but I'm in full agreement that the BCS system is why we are having this debate.

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So fiscal responsibility is paying Idaho $800,000?

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I agree with you Fu but also think Boise's biggest hurdle isn't that teams won't play them, it's that the BCS has made it so they don't have to and why should they??

If Ohio St can continue to get to the National Championship game going through the Big 10 and NOT having a Conference Championship game, why should they make it more difficult for themselves? In the end, the goal is a National Championship not to help out Boise St. Getting involved with Boise on a ego level (you're scared to play us!) is foolish IMO with the current system.


This will never happen, but I think someone should concoct a plan to blow up the conference system entirely and re-apportion the whole shebang. Let teams keep 2-3 rivalry games a season, and jostle the whole fucker up.

I get the "they don't have to and why should they", but scheduling Jacksonville State or South Dakota State or even Duke is just lame.

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