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Never heard of that one at all.


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Never heard of that one at all.


Clearly no one did or cared to. I heard it once before when Starbucks released it a few years back.

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This three-disc box set is what Dylanphiles have been waiting for, sitting patiently for years, even decades. And, even after its 1991 release, it retains the feeling of being a special, shared secret among the hardcore, since -- no matter the acclaim -- it's the kind of record that only the hardcore will seek out. Of course, the great irony is that even casual Dylan fans will find much to treasure in this three-disc set of unreleased material. They'll find songs as good as anything that made the records (sometimes surpassing the official releases, especially on the last disc), plus alternate versions (including original versions of songs on Blood on the Tracks) and long-fabled songs, from the incomplete "She's Your Lover Now" to songs cut from The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan. This doesn't just function as an alternate history of Dylan, but as an expansion of Dylan's history, enriching what is already known about the greatest songwriter of his era -- after all, every song here would qualify as the best song on anybody else's album. And that's no exaggeration.

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I'll get caught up this weekend since I'll be working for most of it.

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I'll get caught up this weekend since I'll be working for most of it.


Tomorrow I'll up a few more as I'm on the road Sun-Wed. I'm stoked to start in on the bootlegs.

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I like this volume - it's stuff from all over the map. Talking Bear Mountain Picnic Blues is pretty sweet. Plus you get stuff like Who Killed Davey Moore, etc from his early career. And Seven Days.

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I like this volume - it's stuff from all over the map. Talking Bear Mountain Picnic Blues is pretty sweet. Plus you get stuff like Who Killed Davey Moore, etc from his early career. And Seven Days.


Yeah, this is great, when I'm in the right mood, I can listen to good ol' folky Dylan forever.

Did I get this from you before? I don't think I ever bought it, and I didn't have it all on my computer.

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I like this volume - it's stuff from all over the map. Talking Bear Mountain Picnic Blues is pretty sweet. Plus you get stuff like Who Killed Davey Moore, etc from his early career. And Seven Days.


Yeah, this is great, when I'm in the right mood, I can listen to good ol' folky Dylan forever.

Did I get this from you before? I don't think I ever bought it, and I didn't have it all on my computer.


This has always been my go-to when I feel like old Dylan but don't know what album I want to hear.

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Disc 2 is easily my favorite. I like the version of "If Not For You" infinitely more than the studio version.

Also, "Nobody "Cept You" maybe be the best love song he ever wrote.


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Disc 2 is also my favorite, although this "experiment" has opened my eyes to some of the mid and later albums that might allow me to appreciate Disk 3 more.

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The most famous bootleg in rock history, with the possible exception of Dylan's own Basement Tapes, finally makes its official appearance 32 years after the event, and nearly 30 years after it started circulating in the underground. Although often identified as a Royal Albert Hall show, this May 17, 1966, concert, in which Dylan played electric material in front of a British audience, was actually recorded in Manchester (hence the unwieldy title with quotes around "Royal Albert Hall"). Even those who've owned this recording for many a year might be tempted by this official package, as it has been expanded into a two-CD set that not only includes the eight electric rock songs from the original bootleg, but also the seven solo acoustic performances that comprised the first half of the show. It's all in very good fidelity, about as good as any copies you could find through unofficial sources. More importantly, the electric half in particular is an important document of rock history. It captures the point at which Dylan was at his most controversial and hard rocking as he blazes through mid-'60s classics such as "Like a Rolling Stone" and "Ballad of a Thin Man," radical electric arrangements of songs that had originally been recorded acoustically ("One Too Many Mornings," "I Don't Believe You"), and the hard rocker "Tell Me, Momma," which Dylan never recorded in the studio. The acoustic disc is not as epochal, but on par with the electric half in the quality of material and performance. On top of everything else there's a 56-page booklet with a fine essay by Dylan's friend Tony Glover (a notable folk musician in his own right). It's not just an interesting adjunct to Dylan's '60s discography; it's as worthy of attention as anything else he recorded during that decade.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:20 am 
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Jesus DJ. Can't we wait until Monday?

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The biggest criticism of The Bootleg Series, Vol. 5: Bob Dylan Live 1975 -- the third installment in Columbia/Legacy's excavation of the exhaustive Bob Dylan vaults (the first was a box set, containing three volumes) -- is that it's a compilation of highlights from his Rolling Thunder Revue of 1975, one that doesn't set out to replicate a set list but instead offers two discs and 22 tracks from this fabled tour. Apart from that, there's very little to complain about on this superlative set, which offers the first official release of Rolling Thunder material. Yes, this had been heavily bootlegged over the decades, plus it was documented on Dylan's notoriously unwatchable film Renaldo & Clara and there was Hard Rain, a collection culled from the post-Thunder 1976 tour that was similar but sour and nowhere near as good the 1975 material, as this superb set illustrates. Hearing this is a revelation, even for serious Dylan watchers -- those so serious to own several bootlegs, even a full shelf of Dylan, but not as obsessive as those who track Bob's every move -- and those who aren't as dedicated, yet still harbor a serious interest, will find this equally absorbing, since this is simply tremendous. It has become legend that Dylan will change arrangements and switch lyrics at the drop of a hat, which was evident on his jaunt with the Band in 1974, preserved for posterity on Before the Flood. Even so, he's looser, wilder, and more alive in this careening, thrilling album, a record where "A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall" gallops along as if it were "Leopard Skin Pill-Box Hat." As that suggests, the wildest thing about this is the electric cuts, where an unwieldy band turns out an overpowering sound that sounds inevitable, as if it's the only way these songs could be played, even when you've heard these songs countless times before in other arrangements. The acoustic moments don't pack the same charge, nor do they contain many of his duets with Joan Baez, yet they're intimate, passionate versions of the songs. In fact, there's not a bad moment here, and if it doesn't replicate the Rolling Thunder tour list to the letter, it does indeed capture the essence of this legendary stint, which is why it's necessary for every serious fan.

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Jesus DJ. Can't we wait until Monday?

Hold on, it's not Monday is it?


I'm on the road today and not back until Wednesday, figured I'd up the dailies right now.

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It does seem strange, very strange indeed, to be hearing an official release of this historic concert, which has been available as a bootleg for decades. The Halloween gig at Philharmonic Hall in New York was a special part of the tour for Another Side of Bob Dylan, arguably his greatest acoustic recording. What's more poignant, however, is how it previews the material on Bringing It All Back Home. While the songs on Another Side hinted at things to come, nothing could have prepared audiences for the dreamy surrealism of "Mr. Tambourine Man," or the nightmarish abstract poetry of "It's Alright Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)," and "Gates of Eden" — all of which appear on Disc One. The remainder of the material comes from Dylan's preceding catalog; there are stirring protest and topical songs, folk songs, humorous narratives, love songs, great wisecracks, and talking blues — "Talking John Birch Paranoid Blues!"), most of them classics — "With God on Our Side," "Hard Rain's Gonna Fall," "Times They Are A-Changin'," "Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll," "Don't Think Twice, It's Alright," "Mama You've Been on My Mind," "All I Really Want to Do," "It Ain't Me Babe" — all of these songs and many others (there are 17 in all) are delivered with the confidence of the seasoned performer; a man who knows his audience and how to handle them. It's not cynical, not detached, just masterful. For those unfamiliar with this set, Joan Baez makes an appearance near the end of the show, and duets with Dylan on four cuts including an amazing read of "Silver Dagger." It is true that if you possess the boot, you have all the music here, and chances are, it has some pretty good sound. But you'll need this version, too. For starters, the sound is spectacular, wonderfully warm and immediate, and the transfer is extremely clean with wonderful dynamics. Secondly, the package is deluxe. In addition to a fine essay by Princeton historian and author Sean Wilentz (he made the gig when he was 13), there are a truckload of killer photos from the show and the period, along with complete discographical information that puts the bootleg packages to shame. For those interested in the acoustic Bob Dylan, this concert is like the grail; his voice is in impeccable shape, and his delivery is revelatory. For those interested in the transition from acoustic to electric, this show is the seam, and for those who are die-hard fans, this is another welcome item in the official catalog.

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I wish I had the time to run through these straight - preferably in a warm bath with a razor, or sitting in my car in a closed garage.

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I wish I had the time to run through these straight - preferably in a warm bath with a razor, or sitting in my car in a closed garage.


I figure I'll be somewhere over Manitoba when the madness finally catches hold. You'll all hear about it.

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Jesus DJ. Can't we wait until Monday?

Hold on, it's not Monday is it?


I'm on the road today and not back until Wednesday, figured I'd up the dailies right now.


Oh cool. Have a safe trip.

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I wish I had the time to run through these straight - preferably in a warm bath with a razor, or sitting in my car in a closed garage.


Reviewing this thread on a cloudy Sunday... I am struck with the frequency of self-mutilation imagery. Is it Dylan or homones?

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Ok, let's restart with this.

I remember there being general excitement when this came out, at least among the degenerates I know. To say I've always been a little disappointed may be a little harsh but for something that was so heralded and "legendary" it leaves a lot to be desired. One thing I have always admired about the first disc is the audio: instead of a concert, it sounds like Dylan is literally performing about 4 inches away from your ear. It works and suits the material. Anybody else think Dylan is employing an early version of "the Dylan voice" (the Bob equivalent of George Jones playing shows singing like Daffy Duck) on "She Belongs To Me? "Visions..." and "Desolation Row" work the best for me here but the weird, amphetamine drenched way that he is always a beat ahead of himself is sort of unnerving, especially when listening at top volume as I did in my truck this afternoon.

I only got a couple of songs into Disc 2 and since it garners most of the attention (and since I may be the only listener this week), I'm pushing it off until tomorrow which means we'll get to Live 1975 on Wednesday.

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I've always been a bit disappointed with this one, too. I've sort of accepted that the performance itself wasn't that great (though, like Bloor said, the first disc is worth it for the audio quality alone) so it's only really worth owning for its historical significance.

Before hearing this recording, I'd always understood that the crowd was pissed at Dylan for playing the electric set and that they heckled and booed him. I don't hear that at all, though and if anything the crowd seems really into it. I think that was the most disappointing part for me on first listen. Did anyone else expect a different crowd response?

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I've always been a bit disappointed with this one, too. I've sort of accepted that the performance itself wasn't that great (though, like Bloor said, the first disc is worth it for the audio quality alone) so it's only really worth owning for its historical significance.

Before hearing this recording, I'd always understood that the crowd was pissed at Dylan for playing the electric set and that they heckled and booed him. I don't hear that at all, though and if anything the crowd seems really into it. I think that was the most disappointing part for me on first listen. Did anyone else expect a different crowd response?


That whole "Judas!"/"I don't believe you, you're a liar!" part? I don't know if the amount of vitriol had been overstated to that point, but I think it was real.

I for one love this record, and I love the way they reprise the Baby Let Me Follow You Down part and most of the set list from this when he comes out for The Last Waltz. This really is a document of what Dylan "meant" at that time, and I fucking love it.

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I've always been a bit disappointed with this one, too. I've sort of accepted that the performance itself wasn't that great (though, like Bloor said, the first disc is worth it for the audio quality alone) so it's only really worth owning for its historical significance.

Before hearing this recording, I'd always understood that the crowd was pissed at Dylan for playing the electric set and that they heckled and booed him. I don't hear that at all, though and if anything the crowd seems really into it. I think that was the most disappointing part for me on first listen. Did anyone else expect a different crowd response?


That whole "Judas!"/"I don't believe you, you're a liar!" part? I don't know if the amount of vitriol had been overstated to that point, but I think it was real.

I for one love this record, and I love the way they reprise the Baby Let Me Follow You Down part and most of the set list from this when he comes out for The Last Waltz. This really is a document of what Dylan "meant" at that time, and I fucking love it.


Yeah the incessant clapping and all between songs is not meant respectfully although I always felt like the "booing Dylan" phenomenon during this period was just another sad Baby Boomer fad ranking somewhere between hula hoops, pet rocks and voting for Ronald Raygun.

The music is pretty loose and there's a little punk rock to the whole affair (I'm not saying The Band is bad per se but man, they are pretty shoddy in places). It works I guess.

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After reading a little more on it and re-listening to disc 2, I do hear the heckling more now. I think just hearing the audio, it's hard to know for sure that the hand-clapping, etc. is in protest or not. I still don't clearly hear the dude saying he's never listening to Dylan again but Bob is obviously reacting to something so I have to believe that really was said.

I'd love to see the video footage of this show.

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Shall we? Aside from the Big Four studio albums, this is undoubtedly my favorite Dylan release and the one that I reach for in a lot of situations. The first four songs of Disc 1 alone are as fitting a definition of "music that I like" as I've ever heard. The crescendo of "It Ain't Me, Babe" when the harmonica kicks in and the crowd roars still gives me chills, it's just that good.

The acoustic set in the middle is really strong: I've always been pretty hard on the songs with Joan Baez because, well, I don't like Joan Baez, but I'm willing to concede that everything is pretty damn well done with the exception of "The Water Is Wide" which is a bridge too far even for me.

Ok, the mini set of Desire songs is not my favorite (with the exception of "Hurricane"), but I love that "Just Like A Woman" and even "Knockin On Heaven's Door" (a song I could generally do without) works pretty well to close things out.

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