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I'm rescuing this topic from the random thread.

Loving this ad. It doesn't hurt that there is no such thing as a flattering image of Lisa Murkowski.


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early voting is open in IN. i'm hittin the polls next week or the week after.

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When my dad told me he voted last week, I was like "Wait, don't you wanna see if anything happens to change your mind?" Silence.

I hate early voting. I like the pomp, circumstance and old people smell of Election Day.

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I haven't been reading as much coverage as I normally do, but perhaps someone can explain this to me:

Why is Barbara Boxer asking to be called "Senator" instead of "Ma'am" being used so heavily by the Fiorina campaign?

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I haven't been reading as much coverage as I normally do, but perhaps someone can explain this to me:

Why is Barbara Boxer asking to be called "Senator" instead of "Ma'am" being used so heavily by the Fiorina campaign?


To portray Boxer as an elitist and to drum up more anti-incumbent fervor.
Although, I'm not sure how that works for a former CEO of Hewlett Packard.
Boxer currently leads by 5% in the polls, and has generally held that lead throughout the campaign process.
Governor Moonbeam is also closing in on a 50% support rate in California.

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oh, I know the polling numbers, I just think it's retarded to portray her as an elitist because she wants to be called "Senator", as if anyone else wouldn't shit a wig in the same position.

Fiorina's campaign should just flash a quick, subliminal

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The conservative leaning Rasmussen Report poll for a Generic Congressional ballot now has the GOP only leading by 3%.
That's down four points from a month ago, and it seems as if the Democrats are starting to win over the undecided or independent voters l

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cotton Wrote:
oh, I know the polling numbers, I just think it's retarded to portray her as an elitist because she wants to be called "Senator", as if anyone else wouldn't shit a wig in the same position.


It always makes me cringe a bit when I hear her say it. I get the point of it -- that our elected officials are supposed to be servants of the people and not career politicians who want their feet kissed like royalty. I'd imagine that anyone who cares much about it would have already found dozens of other reasons why they hate Boxer. It doesn't seem like the sort of thing that would persuade any undecided voter if that's even the goal. It's red meat for the tea party crowd though and maybe its intent is to really inflame that group and increase voter turnout among Boxer haters more than persuade anyone.


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The biggest surprise to me, being a recent transplant to Wisconsin, is how in the hell is this moron Ron Johnson actually beating Russ Feingold in the polls?


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Yail Bloor Wrote:
When my dad told me he voted last week, I was like "Wait, don't you wanna see if anything happens to change your mind?" Silence.

I hate early voting. I like the pomp, circumstance and old people smell of Election Day.


And I am sure he ended up voting for Nathan "Raw" Deal :nono:

As y'all know we got a political hand grenade tossed at us here in Bama. Very very interesting stuff.

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Lyle Evans LooGAR Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
When my dad told me he voted last week, I was like "Wait, don't you wanna see if anything happens to change your mind?" Silence.

I hate early voting. I like the pomp, circumstance and old people smell of Election Day.


And I am sure he ended up voting for Nathan "Raw" Deal :nono:


Or as I read somewhere, a vote for Deal is like a vote Casey Cagle since there's no way in hell Deal won't be eventually removed from office.

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The biggest surprise to me, being a recent transplant to Wisconsin, is how in the hell is this moron Ron Johnson actually beating Russ Feingold in the polls?


Feingold's always struggled to get over the hump (save, really, for his freshman run in '92; then, he was the third Democrat in the primary field, with Jim Moody (ex-House) & Joe (?) Checota (??) (self-funded) tearing each other apart, so Feingold pushed ahead as the quirky, above-the-fray candidate, & in the general, he faced an ineffectual alcoholic (Bob Kasten) in a bad year for GOP incumbents). Look at the results from '98, against Mark Neumann, though, & even '04 (Tim Michels (like Ron Johnson, a self-funded construction company owner)), & you'll see an absolutely brutal record. Beat Neumann by less than a percent & Michels by only twelve (in a year when Kerry held Wisconsin; in fact, a slightly larger pecentage than Gore took in '00).

... Oh, & for the Beeg & Billz crowd, who will say Kerry's win was the product of vote fraud among Milwaukee's poor (i.e. black) voters, I'll say this: the only claim of voter fraud I have ever seen confirmed, I confirmed with my own ears. Freshman year of college, this Guinea from outside Chicago voted once, in Wisconsin, for Neumann (& whoever else was on the GOP slate), &, again, in suburban Chicago (I think he lived in Henry Hyde's district). So, suck on that, conservafucks.


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 Post subject: Re: Generic political thread: 2010 midterms
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Feingold is also a classic liberal, a quirky guy who doesn't want DSCC help, and an easily identifiable candidate who has "been there too long" and "doesn't represent us anymore" -- a problem for incumbents around the country.

In GA I have no idea why Barnes and them aren't running ads saying "10 term Congressman Nathan Deal" and "Are you better of now than you were in 1998?" - but I hope it has to do with the fact that those seem like good issues, but don't poll well.

Of course, we're embroiled in our own scandal over here, and are trying to judge the fallout.

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Lyle Evans LooGAR Wrote:
Feingold is also a classic liberal, a quirky guy who doesn't want DSCC help, and an easily identifiable candidate who has "been there too long" and "doesn't represent us anymore" -- a problem for incumbents around the country.


Classic, yes, on issues. But on votes... I have this fear, come 2013, & Liebermann is out (I don't see Jowly Joe getting thru, again; though, if Mc Mahon wins in CT, maybe the voters are just that DUMGBG), Feingold will become the Mugwump-in-Chief, putting "post-partisanship" & "friendship" with Ham-Biscuits & Walnuts over actually attempting to propel (at varying speeds) a classic liberal agenda.

I'm still going to vote for the bastard, of course, but I don't like it.


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Lyle Evans LooGAR Wrote:
Feingold is also a classic liberal, a quirky guy who doesn't want DSCC help, and an easily identifiable candidate who has "been there too long" and "doesn't represent us anymore" -- a problem for incumbents around the country.

In GA I have no idea why Barnes and them aren't running ads saying "10 term Congressman Nathan Deal" and "Are you better of now than you were in 1998?" - but I hope it has to do with the fact that those seem like good issues, but don't poll well.

Of course, we're embroiled in our own scandal over here, and are trying to judge the fallout.


Both Barnes' and Deal's ads are terrible and presuppose that most of the intelligent talk about important issues in this state goes on between Gomer and Goober out behind the service station.

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well we may end up with Chris Dudley as governor. The shitty ex-basketball player, yes. I guess loaning/investing money with rich powerful people in the state over the past few years has earned him some nice friends.

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well we may end up with Chris Dudley as governor. The shitty ex-basketball player, yes. I guess loaning/investing money with rich powerful people in the state over the past few years has earned him some nice friends.


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No elections of note in my district, but a few miles over there's a race that's really heating up and starting to get chippy in NJ's 12th District between incumbent D-Rush Holt (aka the rocket scientist) and challenger R-Scott Sipprelle (aka the venture capitalist).

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And in my brothers district, this debacle is currently escalating:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/10/south_jersey_democrats_planted.html

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CAMDEN COUNTY — Democratic leaders in southern New Jersey recruited a fake Tea Party candidate to try to draw votes away from a Republican challenger in the 3rd District congressional race, a newspaper reported today.

Several Democratic operatives who spoke to the Courier-Post of Cherry Hill on the condition of anonymity detailed how the campaign of first-term Democratic U.S. Rep. John Adler and officials in the Camden County Democratic Committee ran the petition drive to get Mount Holly picture framer Peter DeStefano on the ballot. Operatives also told the newspaper a county Democratic employee is running DeStefano's campaign.

Polls show that Adler is in a tight race against Republican challenger Jon Runyan. DeStefano, Adler and top officials in Adler's campaign did not immediately return calls or e-mails from The Associated Press on today.

Previously, they have denied Republicans' accusations that DeStefano was a plant intended to siphon votes away from whichever Republican would emerge from last June's primary to face Adler.

In an August interview with the AP, DeStefano displayed a stack of books by Tea Party favorites like Dick Armey and Glenn Beck and blasted both Adler and Runyan ruthlessly.

He fended off questions about Republicans' accusations and Tea Party organizations' claims that he wasn't even a member, though he was running for congress with the slogan "New Jersey Tea Party." While there are several Tea Party groups in New Jersey, none goes by that name. Some Tea Party groups are supporting Runyan.

"Any American citizen can run for any office they want," DeStefano said. "I think it's time we get past this crap."

He refused to answer questions about precisely when he decided to run.

The operatives told the Courier-Post the plan was shared with members of the South Jersey Young Democrats, and some in that group gathered signatures for DeStefano — while others didn't because they thought the plan was unethical.

Republicans started raising suspicions about DeStefano months ago for two reasons. First, most people didn't realize he was in the race before the Democrats released an internal poll that showed the unknown Tea Party candidate drawing about one-tenth of the votes.

Then, Republicans poured over DeStefano's nominating petitions and found many of the signatures were from Democrats, including a former Adler campaign staffer.

Adler is exceptionally well funded, especially for a first-term member of Congress. By June 30, he had nearly $2 million on hand in his campaign funds, even after spending over $500,000.

But Runyan has been seen as a threat. He's a popular recently retired member of the Philadelphia Eagles running in a sprawling district that usually elects Republicans.

The campaign has been nasty and not especially focused on policy issues.

Adler has criticized Runyan for eschewing open-format debates, keeping donkeys on his property to qualify part of it for a lower agricultural tax rate and not denouncing spending by independent conservative groups that have targeted Adler.

Runyan, meanwhile, has expressed outrage, claiming Adler falsely tried to link him with Republicans who want to privatize social security. He also filed charges accusing an Adler campaign volunteer of harassing his 8-year-old daughter while she played outside by taking photos of Runyan's home.

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I'm still amazed at the support David Vitter gets.

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