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Yeah, another obvious classic. I think one good aspect of going through the albums and getting into the tracks not so pushed on compilations is to hear things like Burnin' and Lootin' and things that show how rough those edges were that invariable get rounded off and softened in the popular mythology of St. Bob. After these last 2 albums, we're beyond the ska or rocksteady influences of the earlier stuff and past Lee Perry's production defining the sound. This is the reggae era and these guys have pretty much just defined the genre.


Yeah, I can see why everyone really got excited about these last two albums. Exciting, emotional, entertaining on every level. I even suspended my natural inclination to hit skip when 'I Shot the Sheriff' and dare I say, I really listened to it for the first time in I don't know how long.

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I just listened to Catch a Fire today.

It was good, the best so far.

But I don't know. I can't seem to really get into this stuff.


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I forgot how good Catch a Fire is, solid to awesome all the way through. Hell even the bonus songs are essential.

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Natty Dread is Bob Marley's finest album, the ultimate reggae recording of all time. This was Marley's first album without former bandmates Peter Tosh and Bunny Livingston, and the first released as Bob Marley & the Wailers. The Wailers' rhythm section of bassist Aston "Family Man" Barrett and drummer Carlton "Carlie" Barrett remained in place and even contributed to the songwriting, while Marley added a female vocal trio, the I-Threes (which included his wife Rita Marley), and additional instrumentation to flesh out the sound. The material presented here defines what reggae was originally all about, with political and social commentary mixed with religious paeans to Jah. The celebratory "Lively Up Yourself" falls in the same vein as "Get Up, Stand Up" from Burnin'. "No Woman, No Cry" is one of the band's best-known ballads. "Them Belly Full (But We Hungry)" is a powerful warning that "a hungry mob is an angry mob." "Rebel Music (3 O'Clock Road Block)" and "Revolution" continue in that spirit, as Marley assumes the mantle of prophet abandoned by '60s forebears like Bob Dylan. In addition to the lyrical strengths, the music itself is full of emotion and playfulness, with the players locked into a solid groove on each number. Considering that popular rock music was entering the somnambulant disco era as Natty Dread was released, the lyrical and musical potency is especially striking. Marley was taking on discrimination, greed, poverty, and hopelessness while simultaneously rallying the troops as no other musical performer was attempting to do in the mid-'70s.

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For some reason MF is stuck on "processing the dl request." Worked fine on a different one this morning.


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Again, another classic album that I like a lot. but, I'm not at all sure I agree with that review calling it his best. I kind of prefer the last 2 to this one and if I want that more polished sound, I'll probably favor something like Exodus over this one. But, still plenty to love on here.

One thing I keep noticing on there albums is just how good the band is. I think just the pure musicianship of the group gets maybe a bit shortchanged when looking at this stuff but there is some really top notch playing going on throughout these albums.


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For Bob Marley, 1975 was a triumphant year. The singer's Natty Dread album featured one of his strongest batches of original material (the first compiled after the departure of Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer) and delivered Top 40 hit "No Woman No Cry." The follow-up Live set, a document of Marley's appearance at London's Lyceum, found the singer conquering England as well. Upon completing the tour, Marley and his band returned to Jamaica, laying down the tracks for Rastaman Vibration (1976) at legendary studios run by Harry Johnson and Joe Gibbs. At the mixing board for the sessions were Sylvan Morris and Errol Thompson, Jamaican engineers of the highest caliber. Though none of these cuts would show up on Legend, Marley's massively popular, posthumous best-of, some of the finest reality numbers would surface on the compilation's more militant equivalent, 1986's Rebel Music set. "War," for one, remains one of the most stunning statements of the singer's career. Though it is essentially a straight reading of one of Haile Selassie's speeches, Marley phrases the text exquisitely to fit a musical setting, a quiet intensity lying just below the surface. Equally strong are the likes of "Rat Race," "Crazy Baldhead," and "Want More." These songs are tempered by buoyant, lighthearted material like "Cry to Me," "Night Shift," and "Positive Vibration." Not quite as strong as some of the love songs Marley would score hits with on subsequent albums, "Cry to Me" still seems like an obvious choice for a single and remains underrated. Though record buyers may not have found any single song to be as strong on those terms as "No Woman No Cry," Rastaman Vibration still reached the Top Ten in the United States.

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Again, another classic album that I like a lot. but, I'm not at all sure I agree with that review calling it his best. I kind of prefer the last 2 to this one and if I want that more polished sound, I'll probably favor something like Exodus over this one. But, still plenty to love on here.

One thing I keep noticing on there albums is just how good the band is. I think just the pure musicianship of the group gets maybe a bit shortchanged when looking at this stuff but there is some really top notch playing going on throughout these albums.


Yeah, I definitely noticed that Natty Dread is really clean. I don't mind it at all, but the contrast is fairly apparent. 'So Jah Said' is almost impossible to squeeze out of the brain.

Putting on today's album now.

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Yeah from here on out the sound is absolutely polished and spit shined to a high degree. Still excellent material and great playing but if you're looking for a ton of raw, rough edges as far as the sound goes, you're shit out of luck from now on.


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Natty Dread as good as it is, is just above mediocre imo. The stand outs are great, Rebel Music and Talkin Blues, Them Belly, still shows he's got his ear to the ground. A great task to follow having lost his 2 original partners and reconfiguring the band with the great idea of adding the Itals. The programmed percussion sound bothers me.

Positive Vibration end to end is the better more consistent album. Funny in the review above, I never realized any of these songs did not make the Legend cut. Really . . . Roots Rock Reggae, Positive Vibe, Rat Race, War, Want More, Crazy Baldhead? I can get through this as easily as Catch a fire or Burnin. I should add, I've always loved Jah Live so the bonus amps ups the goodness on this album.


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Recorded in London following an attempt on his life, Exodus shows Bob Marley mellowing a bit. Despite some powerful political tracks, Marley adopts a less fiery, more reflective approach than his previous outings. Still, it's hard to find reggae as good as this. Exodus has all one would expect from a Bob Marley album: rumbling statements like "Exodus" and "The Heathen" as well as poetic love songs like "Turn Your Lights Down Low." Considering how good these tracks are, Exodus does not stop here. Marley also unleashed the huge international hits "Jamming," "Waiting in Vain," and "One Love/People Get Ready." These inspired tracks, perhaps more than any others, came to define Marley around the world. They are irresistible no matter how many times they are played. Never one to dodge innovation, "Exodus" hints that Marley was taking cues from the emerging dub scene. Exodus, even though it contains some of Marley's best work, has an underlying nostalgic feel to it, hinting that Marley was getting a little formulaic.

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Yeah, this is one the people sick of Bob Marley are sure to hate. Songs like Jammin' and Three Little Birds are totally the symbol of what has become standard issue reggae and have been over-played to death. Of course, they are classic songs for a reason. And, while they are far to the lighter side of things than most songs in his catalog, they are just as much a part of why he was great as the more serious stuff.

Also, for every light-hearted tune, there are heavier numbers; and while you get the happy bouncy reggae of some tracks, you also get the opener, Natural Mystic, which features a slowed down, deeper, rumbling bass line and sparse spacey instrumental fills. Or Heathen with its similar nods to dub. Or, the title track. The love songs on here are also some of his best. A great, balanced album that shows off a wide range of what the man was capable of. Maybe not his most innovative record, but for craftsmanship and songwriting absolutely a top notch effort.


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I'm away for the week so I 'll have to go by memory on this. I agree on Nobody's take. Heathen and Natural Mystic are the ones I'll still pop on a mix. Natural Mystic is fun to play on the guitar as well. Definitely remember playing this album more as a teenager than when I got older. Still, Marley has the touch and his audience ever widening by the time this album is out.


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Yeah, this is as polished as it comes but it sounds pretty damn good. I daresay this album may have made me less cranky too. I'm going back to play Rastaman once more. Not being familiar with any of those songs has whetted a desire to revisit.

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Exodus is probably my least favorite Marley studio album. i still like it though.


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Kaya continues what has become an unspoken tradition in the evolution of Bob Marley & the Wailers discography -- blending western sounds and motifs with the icons and traditions from the very core of Jamaican society. In fact, the very word "kaya" is synonymous with marijuana in Rastafarian culture. Likewise, the album Kaya could be easily construed as an open love letter or musical paean to the lifestyle that Marley so eagerly embraced and promoted. Themes of commonality and unity pervade this release more so than previous albums. Likewise, the overt political stances that had become somewhat of a moniker for Marley and the Wailers are temporarily replaced by timeless compositions, such as the eternally optimistic "Easy Skanking" and "Is This Love." Marley had not -- as some proclaimed -- gone soft, however. The light, at times practically giddy, rhythms on "Satisfy My Soul" contrast the darker brooding sonic and lyrical images on "Running Away." The most pressings issues Marley deals with concern ever-increasing spiritual consciousness. Throughout Kaya, humble thanks is offered to, as well as guidance sought from, Jah -- evidence that the spirituality that permeates the Wailers music is real and not lip service. Kaya could be considered the oasis before the political and personal eruptions that would inform and influence Marley and the Wailers next studio releases Survival and Uprising. The 2001 "Definitive Remasters" edition of Kaya also includes the non-LP "Smile Jamaica." Although initially issued as the flip side of "Satisfy My Soul," the song was recorded more than a year prior to this album, resulting in a somewhat odd juxtaposition.

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Not much to ad to that review I guess. This one's a nice change of pace, utterly relaxing more than what has come up before. Really nice one to throw on and just kick back in the summertime.


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I dropped out of this without intending to. I'm going to listen to Burnin' maybe tomorrow and try to catch up from there.


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Not much to ad to that review I guess. This one's a nice change of pace, utterly relaxing more than what has come up before. Really nice one to throw on and just kick back in the summertime.


Yeah this was pretty mellow. Nothing really jumped out and grabbed you by the noggin but it suited me fine actually.

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Containing what is considered Marley's most defiant and politically charged statement, Survival concerns itself with the expressed solidarity of not only Africa, but of humanity at large. The album was controversial right down to the jacket, which contains a crude schematic of the stowage compartment of a typical transatlantic slave ship. Survival is intended as a wake-up call for every man to resist and fight oppression in all of its insidious forms. From Tyrone Downie's opening synthesizer strains on "So Much Trouble in the World" to the keyboard accents emerging throughout "Zimbabwe," the sounds of Survival are notably modern. The overwhelming influence of contemporary African music is also cited with the incorporation of brass à la Fela Kuti and his horn-driven Africa '70. While "Top Rankin'," "Ride Natty Ride," and "Wake up and Live" are the most obvious to benefit from this influence, there are other and often more subtle inspirations scattered throughout. Survival could rightly be considered a concept album. Marley had rarely been so pointed and persistent in his content. The days of the musical parable are more or less replaced by direct and confrontational lyrics. From the subversive "Zimbabwe," which affirms the calls for the revolution and ultimate liberation of the South African country, to the somewhat more introspective and optimistic "Africa Unite," the message of this album is clearly a call to arms for those wanting to abolish the subjugation and tyranny of not only Africans, but all humankind. Likewise Survival reinforces the image of Marley as a folk hero to those suffering from oppression. The 2001 Definitive Remaster of Survival includes a bonus track featuring the 12" extended version of "Ride Natty Ride" -- previously only available on CD in the Songs of Freedom box set.

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Kaya is pleasant enough. I forgot how much I liked She's Gone, probably my favorite on the album. Misty Morning and Time Will Tell are my other stand outs. Satisfy My Soul another classic reworking of an older Rock My Boat. Having gone through this many albums Bob has managed to try fresh approaches on each, not sure if that's him or the producer. Sometimes it works and sometimes not.


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Uprising would be the final studio album featuring Bob Marley & the Wailers to be released during Marley's lifetime. Prophetically, it also contains some of the band's finest crafted material, as if they were cogent that this would be their final outing. The album's blend of religious and secular themes likewise creates a very powerful and singular quest for spirituality in a material world. Although it is argued that an album's graphic design rarely captures the essence of the work inside, the powerful rebirthing image of a rock solid Marley emerging with his arms raised in triumph could not be a more accurate visual description of the musical jubilation within. Musically, the somewhat staid rhythms often synonymous with reggae have been completely turned around to include slinky and liquid syncopation. "Work," "Pimper's Paradise," and the lead-off track "Coming in From the Cold" are all significant variations on the lolloping Rasta beat. The major difference is the sonic textures that manipulate and fill those patterns. The inventive and unique guitar work of Al Anderson -- the only American member of the original Wailers -- once again redefines the role of the lead electric guitar outside of its standard rock & roll setting. "Zion Train" is awash in wah-wah-driven patterns creating an eerie, almost ethereal backdrop against Marley's lyrics, which recollect images from Peter Tosh's "Stop That Train" all the way back on Marley & the Wailers' international debut Catch a Fire. The final track on the original pressing of Uprising is "Redemption Song." Never has an artist unknowingly written such a beautiful and apropos living epitaph. The stark contrast from the decidedly electric and group-oriented album to this hauntingly beautiful solo acoustic composition is as dramatic as it is visionary. Less than a year after the release of Uprising, Marley would succumb to cancer. The 2001 "Definitive Remaster" version of Uprising contains the band version of "Redemption Song" and the 12" mix of "Could You Be Loved."

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I need to play catch up with these last two.

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I'm catching up as well. I listened to Survival yesterday. Another in his catalog I don't frequent enough but I have always enjoyed a good portion of it. I like the horns laid down on this one. Much more brass coming forward like in Wake up and Live. As his albums progress I swear I'm starting to see him more as amazing gospel singer with a freaky knack for incredible lyricism. To be this strong and focussed this far along is beyond the usual. I think he has become fully aware of his prophet image at this point.


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I'm catching up as well. I listened to Survival yesterday. Another in his catalog I don't frequent enough but I have always enjoyed a good portion of it. I like the horns laid down on this one. Much more brass coming forward like in Wake up and Live. As his albums progress I swear I'm starting to see him more as amazing gospel singer with a freaky knack for incredible lyricism. To be this strong and focussed this far along is beyond the usual. I think he has become fully aware of his prophet image at this point.


Yeah, it's strange that with Survival, after only a few songs in I'm significantly more engaged with the music and lyrics. It's qualitatively much more powerful than the last couple.

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