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 Post subject: Re: The Walking Dead - Series Premiere 10/31 on AMC
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:16 pm 
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OK, so they had to stop on the side of the road because the RV blew a hose, but even though they explictly said they had no way to fix it, they drove off without incident after plopping future zombie Jim at his new makeshift rest stop/metamorphosis station.

WTF???


So what you are saying is that you don't have any difficulty in believing that Zombies have taken over the world but the fact that they were somehow able to get an old RV to start is just unbelievable.


that they got a broken-down RV running again seemingly without repairing it, yes

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everything about the cdc riminded me of 2001 a space oddysey and not in a good way

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Having a hard time wrapping my head around that.


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So what you are saying is that you don't have any difficulty in believing that Zombies have taken over the world but the fact that they were somehow able to get an old RV to start is just unbelievable.


suspension of disbelief. I don't have a hard time accepting that there are zombies if that's what the story dictates. I have a much harder time believing that their existence would somehow alter the physics of the combustion engine.

I also just assumed that they went up to the gas station to get the hose and then fixed it while they moved the sick dude. Obviously, it was just a plot device to get them to stop and dump him off. I could've used Shane saying "got it" or someone saying they fixed the RV, but that didn't bother me nearly as much as the scientist/CDC stuff. It's like a sharp turn into Lost country that I don't wanna make. His little "reports" and drunken fits just struck me as contrived and a little dumb.

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The sneak peak of the finale looks really bad. Bummer.


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I'm thinking that the CDC dude was using live humans for his tests. Why are there no other workers there?

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I'm thinking that the CDC dude was using live humans for his tests. Why are there no other workers there?


good call

and if he wasn't before...

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I'm thinking that the CDC dude was using live humans for his tests. Why are there no other workers there?


good call

and if he wasn't before...


I don't know. If you watched the microscope images, there were some pretty cheesy use of virus imagery there. One was a sphere covered with spikes.


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So what you are saying is that you don't have any difficulty in believing that Zombies have taken over the world but the fact that they were somehow able to get an old RV to start is just unbelievable.


suspension of disbelief. I don't have a hard time accepting that there are zombies if that's what the story dictates. I have a much harder time believing that their existence would somehow alter the physics of the combustion engine.

I also just assumed that they went up to the gas station to get the hose and then fixed it while they moved the sick dude. Obviously, it was just a plot device to get them to stop and dump him off. I could've used Shane saying "got it" or someone saying they fixed the RV


Yeah I get that. I was just poking fun that Rick wakes up in an empty hospital and finds out that zombies have taken over the world which we get no explanation for and not only are people ok with that but they don't want the explanation of how that came to be. And then its the RV starting without an explanation of how they fixed the hose that makes the plot unbelievable. It's unexplained and maybe a plot flaw but come on. When you already accept the zombies, why not as you say just assume Shane found a hose or tape, or some zombie intestines to use in leiu of a hose. It seems that's less a leap of imagination than you're asked to take about the very premise of the show. I guess it stands out because it was a wholly unnecessary plot twist. They could have just had the sick guy complain about the bumps and pulled over and dropped him off rather than have the RV break down. So why have it break down and then not do anything more with that storyline than leave the sick guy behind. Damn you all for making me evaluate the plot of a zombie show.


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shiv Wrote:
I'm thinking that the CDC dude was using live humans for his tests. Why are there no other workers there?


good call

and if he wasn't before...

Seems fairly clear he's been testing on human tissue that is in the process of turning zombie, which is why our heroes left ol' Mark Eitzel on the side of the road instead of just braining him - gives them a reason to have to go back and find him. Although that assumes the series will actually use the elements it sets up, and I haven't seen much evidence of that so far.

The magic self-fixing RV is just a symptom of a bigger problem. I mean, really, the RV didn't need another reason to stop other than the sick guy demanding to be left behind, so why introduce the broken hose at all? It's just lazy writing or slack planning or both.

Beyond the tiny points of continuity, I find this series really ill-conceived. For example, it seems to me that the protagonist found his wife and kid waaaay too fast. His search for them should have been his quest for the entire series, because right now there's no larger story arc to drive this show forward (other than his sense of debt to the black guy and his kid, but that lacks any sense of immediacy). So instead of a story arc, we've just been following one band of fairly annoying survivors around with our fingers crossed hoping that zombies kill them all as soon (and as gruesomely) as possible.


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jesus f christ. some of you people are like little kids asking retarded questions and commenting about little details in scenes.


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billy g Wrote:
I was just poking fun that Rick wakes up in an empty hospital and finds out that zombies have taken over the world which we get no explanation for and not only are people ok with that but they don't want the explanation of how that came to be. And then its the RV starting without an explanation of how they fixed the hose that makes the plot unbelievable.

I'm not about to defend this series, but c'mon. It's a zombie story. We, as an audience, are willing to accept that zombies took over the world; that's the premise. We don't really care how it happened, and any explanation to that end is doomed to failure. But, once we buy into that premise, we expect the story to adhere to its own sense of logic and continuity.


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 Post subject: Re: The Walking Dead - Series Premiere 10/31 on AMC
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In the book, Rick's finding his wife and son led immediately into an intensified conflict between him and Shane which then set the story in a new direction. It moves pretty quickly from one scenario to another while the TV show just seems to sort of wander around aimlessly... like a zombie.

This has been frustrating to watch, and I have to agree that it seems poorly planned. Either Kirkman just doesn't know what made the book work or Darabont has pushed him into a different direction or he has no idea how to write for TV or all of the above. It isn't just his fault, of course, as there are a lot of people working on the show, but he's supposed to be helping to drive the thing. I just last night started watching some of the Comic Con interviews with Darabont and Kirkman, and combined with the last four episodes of the show, it's finally becoming clear to me that I can't expect anything from the book to be carried over to the show intact.

The actor who plays Rick gets worse with every episode, too. Hammed up TV/movie Southern accents have always been a pet peeve of mine, but he's borderline Forrest Gump sometimes. I know Rick's supposed to be from a small Georgia town, but I never read him in the book as sounding like such a dopey hick.


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I hope that the redneck gets eaten soon. I can't stand him pacing around with that stupid cross bow screaming "you left my brother to die" every episode. But since he's one of the bigger actors on the show, he'll probably be around for a while.

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the more i think about it, the more i realize i don't like a single character on this show

why the hell am i watching this again???

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the more i think about it, the more i realize i don't like a single character on this show

why the hell am i watching this again???
pretty much where I'm at. My favorite character is whatever Zombie i can see first, and I hope that he gets to kill someone.


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I still like Glenn. And although I don't have to like characters to enjoy something, I need some characters to find interesting. I'm pretty meh on any character being eaten.

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The actor who plays Rick gets worse with every episode, too. Hammed up TV/movie Southern accents have always been a pet peeve of mine, but he's borderline Forrest Gump sometimes. I know Rick's supposed to be from a small Georgia town, but I never read him in the book as sounding like such a dopey hick.


Trivia tidbit: the actor who plays Rick is the son-in-law of the one and only Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull.


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the more i think about it, the more i realize i don't like a single character on this show

why the hell am i watching this again???

I quit after episode 2. I broke my own comic rule to watch it, and wasn't rewarded with anything worth continuing.

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I still like Glenn. And although I don't have to like characters to enjoy something, I need some characters to find interesting. I'm pretty meh on any character being eaten.


Yeah, at this point he's the only character I think they've pulled off really well.

Dale and Andrea are OK. A little over the top here and there, but I don't dislike them.


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Solid gore scene there with the pick axe where the woman who got beat up by her husband drives it into his head a FEW times. I actually said to FemDerris, "I can't believe they're showing this................and again".


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yeah, i can't believe the gore being allowed on this show.

glenn is definitely the most likable character.

i kind of hate the kid playing carl though. i feel like he's the only one who doesn't look like his comic book likeness. i thought andrea would be younger too.

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I'd like to be optimistic about this, but it probably just means we'll get half a season next year and the show will disappear like Earth 2


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Why would you think that? Sounds like a good move to me. Hopefully it means that Darabont wasn't really satisfied with the way this season unfolded. Definitely a good sign, I think, that he's doing more of the writing for Season 2 himself.


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