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PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:12 pm 
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In Dalen's defense, 1969 was not 1966 in terms of what is generally considered classic albums.

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I'm not even sure what that means.

There are more "classic" albums from 1966? Depends on who you ask.


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Also, the thread is called "You Should Hear This", not "Stone Cold Classics".

I think we're all pretty versed in Rolling Stones 500 greatest albums.

For the most part.


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Rick Derris Wrote:
Also, the thread is called "You Should Hear This", not "Stone Cold Classics".

I think we're all pretty versed in Rolling Stones 500 greatest albums.

For the most part.


Totally agree. I was just mentioning that Dalen's point of view does have some basis.

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Is Yellow Princess 69 or 68? Doesn't really matter, still a fantastic record. Of his 60s releases, I've always been partial to "Days Have Gone By". I think it builds off the previous record and really hits the stride.

Those Pharoah Sanders records are great as well. Coupled with Alice Coltrane's "Monastic Trio" record from the year before, and you've got a nice little playlist.

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Is Yellow Princess 69 or 68? Doesn't really matter, still a fantastic record. Of his 60s releases, I've always been partial to "Days Have Gone By". I think it builds off the previous record and really hits the stride.

Those Pharoah Sanders records are great as well. Coupled with Alice Coltrane's "Monastic Trio" record from the year before, and you've got a nice little playlist.


Hm, I guess Yellow Princess is 1968. I was going by AMG which had it as '69, but I think it's generally less reliable than Wikipedia and RYM which both have it as '68. He put out a lot of albums that year.

Never heard that Alice Coltrane album. I have the three she put out in '70-'71, all of which are good, but I don't like any of them nearly as much as Sander's own stuff from this period.


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you should hear this as well:

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not an album proper, but still very worthwhile. early fela with unusually concise songs for him. a solid (not to mention easily digestible for the ADD-set) precursor to the 20+ minute funk workouts he would evenutally become best known for.

the current re-issue comes with some terrific cuts from his early 60's high-life band, Koola Lobitos. good stuff.

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I'm not a big fan of the album (much as I love the band), but has no one mentioned Tommy?

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I'm not a big fan of the album (much as I love the band), but has no one mentioned Tommy?

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Yeah, add that to my list.

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I really dislike that album, for the most part.

Easily The Who's worst album of the '60s.


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Drinky Wrote:
I've actually never heard Izipho Zam, but I posted it here because it's at least as highly regarded as Jewels of Thought, if not more, and it's relevant to this period of Sander's music, which is his most prolific and arguably his best. I just downloaded it yesterday, and I'll share the link I used below.


It's fantastic. My second favorite Pharoah Sanders album. I didn't realize it was 1969. Rateyourmusic didn't show it in my 1969 albums.


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Yeah, I think RYM is wrong in this case. I checked a few different places, and it's the only one that didn't list it as 1969.


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Rick Derris Wrote:
Also, the thread is called "You Should Hear This", not "Stone Cold Classics".

I think we're all pretty versed in Rolling Stones 500 greatest albums.

For the most part.


This. I was going to say it's "You should hear this" not "You've undoubtedly already heard this"

I prefer some of the years that preceed 1969 and the early 70's to 1969 but 1969 was a very deep year.

It also puzzles me that you could say there's only 5 stone cold classics and then stretch the definition of a stone cold classic to include the Stooges debut which I like fine but Stone Cold Classic?

Also, I could probably name 40 albums from 1969 that I like more than:

Dalen Wrote:
Abbey Road
Bitches Brew
The Stooges
Dusty in Memphis



although I recognize that Bitches Brew and Abbey Road were important albums and that others like them a lot more than I do.


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Drinky Wrote:
Yeah, I think RYM is wrong in this case. I checked a few different places, and it's the only one that didn't list it as 1969.


I wasn't saying you're wrong, just that I didn't realize it for that reason. Using RYM is flawed as a lot of my collection gets listed by the reissue year too but its the easiest way for me to do this.


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Yeah I know, just saying.

What's your favorite Sanders album? Karma?


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Can we call a moratorium on the phrase "stone cold classics"?

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Drinky Wrote:
Yeah I know, just saying.

What's your favorite Sanders album? Karma?


Yeah, it's Karma. Hard to beat The Creator Has A Masterplan.


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Ya know, I gotta just jump in to agree with those talking up Credence for '69. I mean, they basically had 5 solid albums, and three of them came out in '69, pretty amazing. Of course, those three albums together weren't all that much longer than a typical CD that comes out these days so I don't think it should get too exaggerated as to how much great stuff they were putting out. But, '69 really was their year in a lot of ways. Bayou Country, Green River and Willie & the Poor Boys; I really couldn't pick a favorite between 'em. Definitely a good year for those guys.

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Can we call a moratorium on the phrase "stone cold classics"?


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Effigy...still relevant and rather fitting the last couple of weeks, no?



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shiv Wrote:
Can we call a moratorium on the phrase "stone cold classics"?


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Ya know, I gotta just jump in to agree with those talking up Credence for '69. I mean, they basically had 5 solid albums, and three of them came out in '69, pretty amazing. Of course, those three albums together weren't all that much longer than a typical CD that comes out these days so I don't think it should get too exaggerated as to how much great stuff they were putting out. But, '69 really was their year in a lot of ways. Bayou Country, Green River and Willie & the Poor Boys; I really couldn't pick a favorite between 'em. Definitely a good year for those guys.



Like Springsteen said about 'em during their induction speech:

"They weren't the hippest........just the best."


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Nice. There will never be anything that sounds as good as a Buchla. Ever.


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shmoo, I've had a bunch of Can CDs stacked up at home for weeks intending to take them all to work and have a Can marathon someday soon. If I can remember to do it tomorrow, I can rip & upload that one and any other one you want. I'd prefer to do that over finding a link in the event that the link might contain the older CD version which sounds way inferior to the 2004 remaster.


that would be great. Just the first one for now. I'm trying to limit my new music acquisition somewhat to avoid burnout. It's happened before.


Alright, here it is.

Can - Monster Movie (2004 remaster @ 320kbps)
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I guess we're up to the list phase now?

I like these that haven't been mentioned yet:

David Ackles - Subway to the Country
Appaloosa - S/T
Eduardo Araujo - A Onda e Boogalo
Terence Boylan - Alias Boona
Os Brazos - Os Brazos
Don Cherry - Eternal Rhythm
Jimmy Cliff - S/T
Willie Colon - Guisando
Gal Costa - Gal Costa
Eric Dolphy - Iron Man
Lou Donaldson - Say It Loud!
Dr. John - Babylon
Euphoria - A Gift From Euphoria
Food - Forever is a Dream
Aretha Franklin - Soul 69
Nick Garrie - The Nightmare of J.B.S. Stanislas
Marvin Gaye - Marvin Gaye and his Girls
Dale Hawkins - LA, Memphis & Tyler, Texas
Lee Hazlewood & Ann Margaret - The Cowboy & His Lady
Judy Henske & Jerry Yester - Farewell Aldebaran
Andrew Hill - Lift Every Voice
Horses - Horses
Bobby Hutcherson - Now!
The Isley Brothers - The Brothers Isley
Quincy Jones - Walking in Space
Rashaan Roland Kirk - Volunteered Slavery
Kool and the Gang - S/T
La Lupe - La Lupe es La Reina
Ramsey Lewis - Another Voyage
Love - Four Sail
Love - Out Here
Taj Mahal - Giant Steps/De Ole Folks at Home
Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss Movement
Steve Miller Band - Brand New World
Montage - Montage
Milton Nascimento - S/T
Duke Pearson - How Insensitive
Boz Scaggs - S/T
Leon Thomas - Spirits Known & Unknown
The Three Sounds - Soul Symphony
Ronnie Von - A Misteriosa Luta do Reino de Parassempre Contra O Império do Nuncamais
Wendy & Bonnie - Genesis
Bergen White - For Women Only
Tony Joe White - Black & White
Stevie Wonder - My Cherie Amour
Neil Young - S/T
The Youngbloods - Elephant Mountain


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