Drinky Wrote:
Maybe, but there were certainly times when it seemed to be more at the forefront of what was driving culture. And that was certainly evident at the time.
Like when Nirvana and grunge and Dr. Dre and gangsta rap were big, you knew it. It permeated culture immediately. They changed the musical landscape for a solid decade or more, and that wasn't just apparent in hindsight.
And that's just an example of the last time I remember this happening in my lifetime. Maybe it happened again later, and I was just too old to really be affected. But it really seems like the influence of music on culture has tapered off, unless you count American Idol. But I think that's more a case of the inverse. Society and culture driving the means by which music is produced and consumed. Music subverted to a game show format.
You're talking about a media problem and not a music problem. Everyone here has their own personal "why do people like The Stones so much when they stole everything from Gram and Ry Cooder" and everyone has their own "in hs people liked Pearl Jam and Live, and I liked Bob Dylan and the Wu Tang Clan" example, and that's why we're here, and the people I went to college with still listen to the same 19 records we all owned back then.
ayah Wrote:
pass me my beret as we sit and discuss the death of painting...people love to proclaim that painting is dead all the time. it's such an affectation. painting as a main means of telling a history or as a political protest is not as popular as it used to be because we now have photography and magazines and newspapers (print and digital) to do those things for us. would guernica be as powerful/popular if it was painted today? perhaps but i'm not convinced.
the very cynical side of me says that painting is dead because the untalented mooks who call themselves artists got through four years of school building themselves inside plasterboard cubes and chewing their way out of them. to me that's more of an eating disorder and a laziness for acquiring any real craft.
everything goes 'round and 'round. in the end, i agree with harry...you all be gettin' old. try and be gracious about it.
I like this because, in my mind, you wear a beret anyway. And, as someone who is fascinated by painting as an art form, because I can't draw a stick figure, and every time I go to a museum like MoMA or The National Portrait Gallery (yes I'm a suburban n00b who's likes facile and pedantic art) I feel like I did the first time I heard Exile or the first time I saw Goodfellas.
Even if it's all been done to death, if we've all seen and done everything there is to do, certain things will always shine through. The cream will rise, and people won't even notice because they're eating at Applebee's, shopping at Forever 21, and listening to Rihana.
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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.
FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)
