Would Bammer and Auburn go to the East in this scenario?

Now that's a great point, as A&M might be able to cut into LSU's East and Southeast Texas recruiting haul, as well as UT's (since if given an opportunity to play close to mama, bro's gonna choose SEC over Big 12 every friggin' time).

You are a wise man, Tanner.

I think Bammer stays. But auburn goes to the east. They feel like they belong in the east anyway.

I agree. I only thought Bammer because geographically they would be Easternmost plus they have a natural rivalry with Tennessee. Ole Miss and Auburn would probably be my picks. They could still play their in-state rivals every year and you could rekindle the old school Auburn-Florida and UGA-Ole Miss rivalries back to being yearly.

I mean, if you expand who cares if it's even East/West, you can call it the Garblemac and Craplotron Divisions for all I care. Just look at the ACC...

Or, say "screw it", like the Big East, & go Thunderdome.

Applies to sports other than football, but, yeah...

Conferences based on rivalries would be so much better.

Alabama's visitor's locker room:

Would've been better than "Legends" and "Leaders".

Oh, Big Ten(12)

At this point, 80% of SEC games feel like rivalries, AMIRITE?

And Monty, I would totally be down with a Thunderdome scenario, but then again my stated preference is for the SEC to drop Vandy and Kentucky and add Georgia Tech, Clemson, FSU, VA Tech and two West teams (say, A&M and OU).

Thing I learned this week: If the SEC does expand, they have it written into the CBS and ESPN TV deals that those deals can be renegotiated.

I'd throw The U in there - just so there could be a massive coke ring bust at some point.

And fuck a OU - I don't want those "people" thinking they're part of the south. Take West Virginia.

The names certainly suck and are clearly pretentious, but there would have been a shit storm if the newest member would have gotten stuck in the easiest division and the Michigan/Ohio State rivalry was merely for the chance to play Nebraska most years.
I'm really hoping the Big 12-2 fails and that Texas goes Independent. That would force Oklahoma and possibly A&M to join the SEC, and Notre Dame would have to sacrifice some "academic standards" to remain a relevant independent team or join the Big Ten + 2.

Tim Brando and a few college football blogs have mentioned that the dissension over the Longhorn Network has caused the SEC to flirt with the notion of creating a 16 team Super Conference and raiding the Big 12. Missouri, A&M, OU and Okie State would be the target schools in this scenario.
I really like the thought of a Missouri/Arkansas rivalry, and who wouldn't want to see OU take on LSU or Bama outside of a BCS Bowl game.

If this conference came to fruition, I'd just call it a life. Buy sweatpants, park myself in front of a tv with a laptop, eat cookie dough, and watch/surf for college football coverage 24 hrs a day.

I'm vehemently opposed to all Super Conference BS. It's total crap that this seems to be the slippery slope that Pro-playoff people seem to think is the only way to accomplish the ultimate goal of a playoff system.

To me, it's just more people in power making plays to put their stamp on things and making more money grabs. The thing I love most about college football is it's traditions. These have slowly been eroding over the last 15 years due to the almight dollar influencing tv times, scheduling, etc. I think this sort of thing also opens to the door to 13-14 game schedules which I'm also opposed.

Finally, I think traditional rivalries would start to get moved around. Don't get me wrong, I think the idea of a home/home series with Oklahoma VERY appealing but, as a guy who actually goes to a lot of games, I don't want to go half way across the country every other year to Norman or Stillwater.

This is actually a pretty good point. It's kind of like interleague. I mean it was really cool at first to see the Subway Series, etc. But then it turned into watching the Brewers play the Devil Rays.

However, I'm in favor of letting things evolve. In reality, CFB is really just 4 conferences anyway. So if it takes moving everyone of note into 4 conferences to get everyone involved I'm all for it.

But really, I think the problem is Universities like Texas, Notre Dame, and BYU who think they're larger than everyone else, which I think kind of cuts against CFB's traditions. So if UT wants to be a diva about it, which they have, I say eff em. Let the other passionate schools in the Big Whatever go to other conferences and let UT and ND masturbate to each other.

But those are your traditions that are eroding--The status quo is always changing (Georgia Tech used to be in the SEC for example).

Stop holding the world hostage with your halcyon memories of 1995, Derris.

Zeier years. Fixed.

But Bloor is right: to wit - Dooley marched the Dawgs to Michigan and won the first SEC non bowl game north of the Mason-Dixon since pre WWII I believe. Maybe ever. He said people sent letters fir years after that saying how he made The South proud.

And I know you wouldn't turn down tix to Boise st in the dome.

I've already got my Boise tix and I said I have no problems with these types of games. Home/home series' as well so I'm not sure what the Michigan story has to do with what I was saying or how that makes Bloor "right".

All I'm saying is the people that make these decisions for change sometimes take things that are special and make them ordinary. Every time UGA loses in Jacksonville or the contract with the stadium comes up, some of the power brokers put the idea of nixing the cocktail party altogether and going home/home. Why? You've got a special commodity that you're just going to make another game in the SEC slate. (funny Bloor mentioned '95. We got housed by Florida in Athens when they were renovating Alltel. Hated it then and hate it now. We also played Clemson that year, another game that should still be played more than twice a decade IMO)

The only way the NFL could have something like that would be like if Falcons/Saints played a mid-season game in Puerto Rico or something (how insane would that trip be). Remember the Nebraska/Oklahoma rivalry? It's all but extinct now with realignment. There was even talk last year of moving Michigan/OSU to mid-season. It's not just my traditons that are eroding. It's college football fans and it's usually for some relatively short term revenue.

Since realignment, I can't even tell you who all is in the "former" Big 12 without looking. How is that good for college football? I get the business side of things but there are always going to be other opportunities. At what cost?

Bloor, how about stop taking any defense of tradition as some misguided faux-nostalgia?



(As for Tech, fuck 'em. They pulled themselves out of the SEC. Bad move then, and a monumentally bad move now)

This is from a Husker perspective, but Nebraska seemed to be willing to sacrifice a non-conference game in order to protect their rivalry with OU. The Sooners already had rivalry games with Texas and Okie State, and were far more willing to dwell on the memories of the Switzer era dominance of Nebraska than continue to get throttled by the Cornhuskers during a dark era for Sooners fan.
The rivalry was merely a rivalry due to great teams, coaches and the fact that the winner of the game usually won the Big Eight crown/Orange Bowl bid, once one team had a losing record, it sort of lost its luster.
Don't get me wrong, it felt great to hang 70 on the Sooners during the John Blake era, but it didn't really exercise the demons of those Sooner Magic games.

I support this. Some forget that Clemson and Atlanta are equidistant to Athens, so the rivalry and recruiting war should still exist.

The Florida game was when Steve Superior ran the flee flicker with less than 2:00 on the clock to be the first to hang fifty on UGA in Sanford. Fuck that game, him, the Gators, the university and the entire fucking godforsaken fucking state of Florida.

Oh, and The Clemson game in 2002 was one that really sticks out in my memory, and not just because I woke up in a FREEZING hotel room on a roll away cut with Gasslehoff and two pieces of pizza smushed between us.

We stand in agreement.

Still, to be fair, he was getting pelted from about 6 stories down with ice, bourbon, coke, and plastic cups heading into the locker room.......at HALFTIME.


(beams with pride)

Butch Davis....gone