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 Post subject: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:52 pm 
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What little Sabbath I've listened to in the past has left me largely disinterested going forward, but after working with an old Brit with serious fixation on English hard rock, I thought I'd give it a collegial shot. I'm at least getting through the Ozzy years, after that I'm not promising anything. I'm fairly certain I've never listened to an entire album from start to finish before.

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Black Sabbath the album, the song, and the band have been studied by metalheads with all the fervor accorded the Dead Sea Scrolls. "Black Sabbath" the song starts off the not-feeling-so-fab four's 1970 debut, and from the moment that its first fearsome notes were unleashed on an unsuspecting public it has remained one of the unshakeable cornerstones of heavy metal. While Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, and even earlier gods of noize such as Blue Cheer and Jimi Hendrix are also responsible for the storied future of hard rock and metal, this Birmingham, England, quartet stands apart from its peers on a high mountain peak of doom, cannabis, and the monster riffs that—along with evil T-shirts, volume, and shaggy hair—have fueled a million basement dreams of dark glory. They took the blues out of blues-rock and replaced it with Wagner, creating epic battle rhythms filled with a tension and release. Thanks to Roger Bain's production, Black Sabbath sounds really big and really unhealthy. It's an album that eats hippies for breakfast; also, it has even been statistically determined that if a brain cell were the size of a grain of sand, the amount lost while listening to this record could easily fill the Grand Canyon.


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Black Sabbath's debut album is given over to lengthy songs and suite-like pieces where individual songs blur together and riffs pound away one after another, frequently under extended jams. There isn't much variety in tempo, mood, or the band's simple, blues-derived musical vocabulary, but that's not the point; Sabbath's slowed-down, murky guitar rock bludgeons the listener in an almost hallucinatory fashion, reveling in its own dazed, druggy state of consciousness. Songs like the apocalyptic title track, "N.I.B.," and "The Wizard" make their obsessions with evil and black magic seem like more than just stereotypical heavy metal posturing because of the dim, suffocating musical atmosphere the band frames them in. This blueprint would be refined and occasionally elaborated upon over the band's next few albums, but there are plenty of metal classics already here.


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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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I should just hijack everyone's accounts and insert the all-to-predictable responses to this thread. Y'all play your parts real good now, ya hear?

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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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I should just hijack everyone's accounts and insert the all-to-predictable responses to this thread. Y'all play your parts real good now, ya hear?


I thought it would be a good board enema. Also, I'm genuinely interested in playing these albums without prejudice.

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I am totally curious.

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my part:


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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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how about an album a week instead of everyday? It would give people a change to digest it or in my case a person who wants to participate, but has limited time to do so.


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Y'all play your parts real good now, ya hear?



my part:



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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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toots Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
Y'all play your parts real good now, ya hear?



my part:



aaaahahaha... that's soo america... :cheers:

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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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btw I know these ozzy era albums pretty well so I'm in when it comes to a little bit chatting about them here. dumpjack, you start. ;-)

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Black Sabbath is for the people. :rawk:


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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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how about an album a week instead of everyday? It would give people a change to digest it or in my case a person who wants to participate, but has limited time to do so.


Good idea Stu. I'll try to limit it to that and post Paranoid next Wednesday or so.

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DumpJack Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
I should just hijack everyone's accounts and insert the all-to-predictable responses to this thread. Y'all play your parts real good now, ya hear?


I thought it would be a good board enema. Also, I'm genuinely interested in playing these albums without prejudice.


yes on both.

i'm hoping you'll be pleasantly surprised, and will be contributing and following closely.

Paranoid is the reason i listen to music.


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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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i don't know much about metal or sabbath, but i find myself listening to the first two Dio albums a lot.

and fuck Cream.

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i'm hoping you'll be pleasantly surprised, and will be contributing and following closely.

Paranoid is the reason i listen to music.


I'm sure I will be, there's a lot of music to go through here.

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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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toots Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
Y'all play your parts real good now, ya hear?



my part:



The only t-shirts are black t-shirts.

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Listening now. I remember being a kid and being kind of freaked out by this album, but drawn to it like a horror film. Every song on here is drenched with this grim atmosphere, even during some of the more bluesy moments. This shit was so original and dark at the time. They recorded this live in 1 take I believe, which is fucking incredible.

I'll also mention that this album is responsible for millions of kids starting bands, be it Metal, Rock, Punk, etc. Highly inspirational across many genres.

Oh, and the cover is classic. One of the best ever.


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Bill Ward kills it on The Wizard.


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toots Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
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my part:



I allllmost couldn't get through it. But sweet jesus, I did.

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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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Good idea taking a week per album. No reason to rush through these things. I think the breakneck pace of previous ones was what ultimately put me off of them. I mean I wanted to listen to all those Bob Marley albums, but I wasn't in the mood to listen to a new one every day.

I like this Black Sabbath album a lot - it might be my favorite - and I'd like to revisit it and post some thoughts. Not sure if I'm feeling Sabbath today, but sometime in the next week I'm sure I will.

Also looking forward to the others. I only own their first three (in physical form) and have probably only ever really listened to the first six albums.


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A Bit Of Finger/Sleeping Village is sleazy blues covered in dope smoke. The riff that comes in at 1:37, and then Geezer at 3:46. Ugly.


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I say we just go up to Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules (1979–1982). Honestly, after that, it gets pretty bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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dalen posted that crazed fan video first

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 Post subject: Re: Just like Cream! but worse: DumpJack Meets Black Sabbath
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It's been decades since I've listened to any Sabbath outside Paranoid or We Sold Our Soul for Rock 'n' Roll. This could be as good a chance as any to revisit. I've always like these guys in moderation but have never been anything close to a major fan. Just good loud riffs I enjoy in passing.

Oh, and I say quit after the Ozzy years, like the band should have.


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