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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:55 am 
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Unfortunately that's by FAR the best song on that album.

I'm also an unapologetic fan of the band Alabama and they put out "Roll On" that year. Went multi-platinum.

Not sure you should hear it though. Their greatest hits 1 and 2 are all you really need from them.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:00 pm 
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I think NEED is a subjective term when discussing Alabama.


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Worthy for "Stick Em" and the look on the Human Beat Box's face.

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Of course the production is dated as hell, but "Hard Times" is fantastic and the rest holds up from a nostalgia POV.

Always weird seeing what made year end lists in some of these random years...I mainly think "That probably sucked."

Los Lobos would win this year for me.

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Oh man - Fat Boys "Stick Em" is certainly partially responsible for me listening to mostly rap from about 1985-1993.

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Great record here.

A couple of other really good albums from this year:

Steve Reich: Variations for Wind, Strings & Keyboards / John Adams: Shaker Loops (San Francisco Symphony/Edo de Waart)

Edo de Waart's hand on both of these pieces is just great. The guy might be the best pure minimalist composer ever. He was a fan and brought that love and sort of quiet rebellion to performances. With that, this version of Shaker Loops (one of my favorite Adams pieces) sounds great, however, I wish it wasn't a digital recording. As for the Reich piece, I have gone back and forth on it countless times. It doesn't feel timeless and easy like so much of what he did, but on this album where backed with the Adams piece (whose work generally sounds ridiculously calculated, but not here), it works. It's a nice contrast between the two pieces. Probably not essential, but a good listen for sure.

Ghedalia Tazartes: Une éclipse totale de soleil

This album is goofy and fun oddball stuff. The Sex Pistols samples are fun, there are some brash moments thrown in here and there, but it never gets real serious. Not groundbreaking in any way, but I think it is a pretty good riff on Zappa by way of an electroacoustic madman--again worth a listen.

The Art of Noise: Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise

It sounds dated for sure, like most electronic stuff from this period--but damn there are some killer ideas on here. I think the line that can be drawn from this album, to 90s Mo Wax, to Scott Herren in his glory days, to the synth lines of Emeralds and Oneohtrix is pretty short. This album has been a consistent go to for me whenever I am stuck for ideas over the years. This is what pushing electronic instruments to the limits is all about. Pulling tones and rhythms from all over the place, letting an oscillator do what it is supposed to do, but retaining control. Just a fucking awesome record that I can't imagine ever getting tired of. Go listen to Beat Box and try to not like it--you will fail.


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This Kind of Punishment: A Beard of Bees

This is my favorite album from this year, and on a lot of days, my favorite album from this decade. This record is just weighty. The fullbodied voice paired with those ultrathin piano hooks, and that guitar tone, none of it should work together, it should just be absolute dissonance but it just works. I am sure there is a ton of other stuff out there like this--a bit country, a bit art rock, a bit punk, but I don't have it, please by all means give me some recommendations because I would love to hear more stuff like this (I think I See a Darkness and maybe some Sixteen Horsepower are probably the closest I have come). For me this is just a cool record. It makes me want to grow my hair long, drink booze, and smoke cigarettes--if a record has that effect on me it is a keeper as far as I am concerned (see the entire Wooden Shjips catalog for further evidence of this).


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Definitely some stuff I want to check out here. This Kind of Punishment just jumped up to the top my list next to Arvo Part.


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 Post subject: Re: You Should Hear This: 1984
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I used to offer a write-up and a link for stuff I thought people might not know. It all just disappears into the usual Obner void for everything that isn't sports, TV, or the Grateful Dead. I'm done with it.


Well, this is bullshit. I may not have commented, but I downloaded and enjoyed most everything you've recommended.


Is it more bullshit than just freeloading off his recommendations and adding nothing to the discussion? Not saying you haven't posted your own but this place can get pretty masturbatory where everyone just posts their own thing and there's zero discussion about anything. I can get where you'd stop posting much in detail when it at least appears to be falling on deaf ears.

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Is there much country from '84 worth hearing? Any at all?
The 80's really pretty much sucked for country music, didn't it?


I don't have any country from '84. The 80's weren't as strong as the 50's/60's/70's but saying that they sucked is going too far. Guy Clark and Rodney Crowell released consistently strong albums for most the decade. Emmylou Harris, Willie Nelson, Meryl Haggard, and George Jones had their moments too. I've liked what I've heard from Chris Hillman's Desert Rose Band too.

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I somehow passed over red Roses in the Pogues catalog, despite loving the hell out of Rum, Sodomy and the Lash. How do they compare?


I think Rum, Sodomy and the Lash is their best album but Red Roses is well worth getting. Streams of Whiskey, Boys from County Hell and Transmetropolitan are up there with almost anything in their catalog. I'm sure you'd recognize a few songs from it.


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Yeah, I've heard Stream of Whiskey and Transmetropolitan for sure. Hell, how I let this one slip through the cracks considering how much I've played Rum, Sodomy & the Lash as well as If I Should Fall From Grace With God is pretty bizarre really.


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PopTodd Wrote:
Is there much country from '84 worth hearing? Any at all?
The 80's really pretty much sucked for country music, didn't it?


I don't have any country from '84. The 80's weren't as strong as the 50's/60's/70's but saying that they sucked is going too far. Guy Clark and Rodney Crowell released consistently strong albums for most the decade. Emmylou Harris, Willie Nelson, Meryl Haggard, and George Jones had their moments too. I've liked what I've heard from Chris Hillman's Desert Rose Band too.


Also, Waylon's Never Could Toe the Mark, one of my favorites of his. I love the production on it, which I can't describe too well other than airy muted and clean. I think pretty much critically panned on every level except for the Title track which is a stand out, but something about this album has always slayed me. Other stand out songs - Sparkling Brown Eyes , And if She'll Leave Her Mama, and Knopfler's Settin Me Up.



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Rads? Nah, I like Rads.

His Boo Hoo McSad routine just wears me out about twice a year and I have to vent.


That was a general comment, hoping one of you would restsart a 54'40 or fight scuffle.

Good thing that Polk wasn't able to follow through on this or Rads would be our *gasp* countryman. I know that I couldn't wrap my small-town Southern mind around that. Pass the fucking meth and my dirty wife-beater t-shirt.

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Lyres - On Fyre

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Of the dozens of bands that emerged in the 1980s garage rock revival, Lyres were one of the few that seemed to realize that the point wasn't about how much paisley clothing you could wear or finding the right vintage effects pedals (i.e. wallowing in nostalgia for an era you were too young to have actually witnessed -- the musical equivalent of living in an episode of Happy Days), but about playing cool stripped-down rock & roll. Jeff "Monoman" Conolly understood that the Sonics and the Ramones were traveling in the same direction, but merely using a different path to get there, and, as a result, Lyres' recordings have an energy and passion that's stood the test of time far better than most of their contemporaries; their debut LP, On Fyre, may well be their best. Lyres divide their time equally between covers and originals here, and Conolly's songs are strong enough to stand proudly beside those of his heroes; truth to tell, the album's two most exciting songs, "Don't Give It Up Now" and "Help You Ann," came from his pen. While Conolly's Vox Continental organ keeps his 1960s obsessions up-front throughout, the rest of the band is capable of generating a hard-driving groove, and the performances capture what was exciting and soulful about 1960s punk without drowning in a sea of "retro." If On Fyre has a flaw, it's pacing; the best songs appear on side one, rendering the second half just a bit anticlimactic. But there's good stuff throughout the album, and anyone who digs rock of all eras will find something to shake to on On Fyre.


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1984 was a bad year for sports, TV and the Grateful Dead.

Except for the Greek Theatre shows in July.

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the fat boys weren't that fat

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the fat boys weren't that fat
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