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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:45 pm 
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jewels santana Wrote:
But I'm glad I didn't have a soapbox when I was 14, I'm sure I had some incredible opinions.


I did have a soapbox when I was 14, they were called AOL chat rooms. But you're right, thank the lard there wasn't a twitter at that age.


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 Post subject: Re: Who the hell is Paul McCartney?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:36 pm 
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McCartney = most historically successful / "significant" living rock star, no?

It's not really about 2012-[number of years] = Ok to not know who he is.


My brother was born in 1989. He know who McCartney is, but Paul hasn't had a hit in his entire lifetime. I think that does make a difference. We aren't a good sample, but how many of our peers knew who Glenn Miller was?

I also think context is important. I'd bet a lot of these people are aware that the Beatles existed, though they can't name all four. Same would happen with the Rolling Stones or Led Zeppelin.

We also realize a big part of this is cultural. How many white folks could name a single member of the Temptations, Four Tops or Boyz II Men?


In my years of teaching, not one of my kids, regardless of race could name a single member of any of those groups (Temps, Four Tops, B2M), although a few might be able to name some members of Zep or the Stones, but alot of them knew John and Paul and quite a few knew George and Ringo too. I started teaching in 99 and my kids in the chicago hood were completely unaware of wutang, tribe, bone, etc... that is to say, you could play them hits and they would be completely unfamiliar with the song, let alone who the performer was. When asked to name a motown artist, oftentimes the only name they would come up with was Michael Jackson. So to say it's cultural i think is not quite accurate. What I really think is that as music has become less of a physical artifact, we have fewer and fewer rabid music fans, and they were the only ones who ever bothered to learn names, read liner notes, lyrics etc...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:03 pm 
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jewels santana Wrote:
I think what's most infuriating (if you want to let it annoy you, which I suppose I enjoy) is the pride (that is not limited to this generation) in not knowing something. But I'm glad I didn't have a soapbox when I was 14, I'm sure I had some incredible opinions.

I hate reading my posts on this board from 2005, so I'll try to not judge them too hard.


Haha, good point.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:34 pm 
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I have a son who I bet doesn't know who Paul McCartney is (although he certainly knows The Beatles). Granted, he's 12, but I think some of it has to do with the information age, and the context in which people receive and listen to music now. If you download a Beatles track, you might be lucky to get an album cover associated with it on your iPod, but there's no liner notes typically. Plus, rarely are younger people sitting down and actively listening to music these days it seems.

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http://www.vulture.com/2012/02/paul-mccartney-rolling-stone.html

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"You get the argument 'Make way for the young kids,'" [Macca] says. "And you think, 'Fuck that, let them make way for themselves.'" Oh, snap. "'If they're better than me, they'll beat me.' Foo Fighters don't have a problem, they're good," he says. "They'll do their thing."

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 Post subject: Re: Who the hell is Paul McCartney?
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Them young 45 year old whippersnappers.

But really while I don't have much if any interest in what Paul's up to these days, he's right that it's not his responsibility to stop making music as long as people are interested. Of course, I also think most of those people still listening are the same people who have been listening for decades, it's not like he's competing for the same audience with newer bands...as all the kids not knowing or caring who he is points out.


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Paul doesn't believe the majority of artists out currently are worth a piss. He's right.


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Do you really think that was an honest thread? I mean, they even called his "Sir" correctly.


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