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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:32 pm 
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Next time in LA, I'm going to Jumbo's Clown Room.


I live a little over a mile from there. It's one of those places that I know I should check out but I never really have any big desire to. I don't remember if they mentioned it on the layover or not (probably did) but Courtney Love used to dance there in the pre-Cobain days.

I didn't think they did a very good job with that episode though.


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Those with some info, help a brother out.

Gimme the best Mexican, dive bar, food spots (any price), and maybe a few other places that I should check out.



Saw this and thought I'd share:

http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2012 ... _in_la.php

Actually not a bad list as these things go judging from the ones I know...King Eddy comes in at #2 here. The Burgundy Room (where we took Derris) came in at #9. A lot of these fall more on the good neighborhood cheap joints than scary hellhole side of dive bars but most are good and not upscale or expensive. I'd say don't go to the roost though. Cheap (and not very good) beer and free (and not very good) popcorn are pretty much all it has going for it.


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No mention yet of Father's Office and/or Santa Anita? Also, I've had a lifelong obsession with getting a room at The Marmont.

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No mention yet of Father's Office and/or Santa Anita? Also, I've had a lifelong obsession with getting a room at The Marmont.


Where Cathy Smith at?

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billy g Wrote:
discostu Wrote:
Next time in LA, I'm going to Jumbo's Clown Room.


I live a little over a mile from there. It's one of those places that I know I should check out but I never really have any big desire to. I don't remember if they mentioned it on the layover or not (probably did) but Courtney Love used to dance there in the pre-Cobain days.

I didn't think they did a very good job with that episode though.


what were your gripes?


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 Post subject: Re: 2 days in Los Angeles
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:03 pm 
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discostu Wrote:
billy g Wrote:
discostu Wrote:
Next time in LA, I'm going to Jumbo's Clown Room.


I live a little over a mile from there. It's one of those places that I know I should check out but I never really have any big desire to. I don't remember if they mentioned it on the layover or not (probably did) but Courtney Love used to dance there in the pre-Cobain days.

I didn't think they did a very good job with that episode though.


what were your gripes?


I'm guessing that they had a lot of things fall through on them and had to fill time because there were a lot of mediocre choices. Far too much time spent on Chateau Marmont. It's a really interesting place with a lot of history but they won't let you film most places there and they'll throw you out of Bar Marmont if you even try to take a camera out. I have to imagine that they assumed that they could do more there because otherwise filming Tony cooking scrambled eggs in his room made no sense. That had to be a last minute decision to fill time. In just about every other city, they have Tony meeting someone out for Coffee and breakfast in a segment in which he inevitably makes fun of Americans for eating the complimentary, mediocre American style buffet breakfast from their hotel. I can't imagine that that segment was actually planned.

Two food truck segments was too much. Again, I wonder if that was actually what they really wanted to do. Maybe they had planned to do a segment on Ludo Lefebrve's pop-up restaurant, "Ludo Bites," and it fell through for one reason or another and so they did a segment on his food truck instead. Otherwise, I don't really know how you explain doing two separate segments on food trucks. If they really wanted to spend so much time on food trucks they could have gone to one of the food truck nights where a ton of different food trucks all congregate in a big parking lot and he could have sampled the food of a lot of them or they could have gone to an interesting event where food trucks show up like Art Walk or gone to a good local brewery, craft beer shop or wine shop that doesn't have their own food so they let food trucks show up and allow people to bring in food to eat with their beers/wines. Would have been more interesting than just meeting a single food truck on a random street, and doing that twice.

Then they filmed at a pretty random, good but not great taco stand which seemed kinda forced because I guess you have to have some Mexican if you go to LA. It seemed like a weird choice though because it's not a place that you would really recommend to anyone who was in town for 24 hours. There's a lot better and more interesting Mexican in the city and there are also more interesting non-Mexican within a mile or two of that place. There's a wine bar up the street for instance that was opened by the former chef of a Michelin starred restaurant which has good charcuterie and potted meats served in mason jars at reasonable prices. Last time I ate there I had Lamb Heart tacos. That would have been a far better place for him to go.

Too much Korean food. They profiled the Kogi food truck and then went to Koreatown too. Wouldn't be my choice to spend that much time on Korean food plus since they had already done Kogi (Korean BBQ tacos) and the Ludo truck (fried chicken), they couldn't do either Korean BBQ or Korean Fried Chicken which are two of the most popular foods in Koreatown. Again, I'd say that was poor planning.

He had the two chefs and owners of Animal accompany him out to Koreatown and Jumbo's Clown Room and unless my memory is poor didn't do much if anything on their flagship restaurant, Animal, which is as devoted to the whole nose to tail movement as any restaurant in LA. Unless he's already covered them in a different episode, it seems puzzling that he'd have them on and not at least start there for an appetizer or two.

The whole thing just seemed thrown together to me without really any great segments. They pretty much stuck to a very small part of the city. I think the two furthest points apart were probably about 6-7 miles. They could have done much better.


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 Post subject: Re: 2 days in Los Angeles
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billy g Wrote:
Dalen Wrote:
Those with some info, help a brother out.

Gimme the best Mexican, dive bar, food spots (any price), and maybe a few other places that I should check out.



Saw this and thought I'd share:

http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2012 ... _in_la.php

Actually not a bad list as these things go judging from the ones I know...King Eddy comes in at #2 here. The Burgundy Room (where we took Derris) came in at #9. A lot of these fall more on the good neighborhood cheap joints than scary hellhole side of dive bars but most are good and not upscale or expensive. I'd say don't go to the roost though. Cheap (and not very good) beer and free (and not very good) popcorn are pretty much all it has going for it.


nice read. King Eddy still our #1 choice. really looking forward to it actually.


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it's not what I'd call the most uplifting experience, but it's definitely a place you won't forget easily.

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 Post subject: Re: 2 days in Los Angeles
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:10 pm 
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King Eddy Saloon sold to team behind the Library and Spring Street bars
June 13, 2012 | 7:00 pm


Skid Row's last authentic dive bar is going belly up. But not before it throws one helluva party. King Eddy Saloon, which has been serving downtown Los Angeles since 1933, has been sold to Michael Leko and Will Shamlian, who also own the Library Bar and Spring Street Bar.

King Eddy Saloon owner Dustin Croick says the deal has been in the works for about a month; he confirmed the sale on Wednesday afternoon at the bar. Bill Roller, 74, who lives in the hotel directly above the bar and has been managing the bar for 35 years, was also present--as were the bar's usual cast of colorful characters, drinking $3 cocktails and chatting over plastic pitchers of cheap beer.

KE1"Bill's the heart and soul of this place," said Croick, whose grandfather Babe Croick purchased the bar in the 1960s when it was a solid "blue-collar, workingman's hangout." Babe moved his family to L.A. from Chicago and made his money running downtown parking lots before buying the bar.

Leko's team issued a statement calling King Eddy "the holy grail of dive bars" and promising that his team has "every intention of maintaining the mythical status King Eddy's has earned over the years while giving it a much-needed face lift."

Reached later by phone, Leko confirmed the sale and said the bar's history was its biggest draw. Leko said he intends to "kick the dust off it and bring it up to date" so that others can learn about its legacy. (It reportedly has the oldest liquor license in L.A.)

The sale became imminent after the building housing the bar--the 120-year-old King Edward Hotel--entered bankruptcy and was sold to new owners, at which point the bar's lease had lapsed.
"I let [the new owners] know I had a plan for the bar once I had a signed lease," says Dustin Croick, who wanted to keep the bar in his family and began running the place fresh out of college in 2008 after his father, Rob, was badly injured in a car accident.

"I wanted to fix the bathrooms and the floors and make it a nicer area to be in--not so rugged--but that wasn't enough for them," he said, adding that there are no hard feelings. "They wanted to see someone put a lot of money into it. They want a full kitchen with full food service, and they want to open up the facade and restore it to what it used to look like."

KE2Croick said that he knew Leko was the right guy for the job when he first met him and that he feels Leko will respect the bar's history--maybe even reopen the old speakeasy in the basement, which was allegedly run by the LAPD during Prohibition. Old murals from that era are still visible underground, as are a broken shaft elevator, a rickety cooling house and a number of antique safes.

"Michael is such a laid-back downtown guy," said Croick. "You wouldn't know he's so successful and owns those upscale places because he's so humble. He's just a hard- working guy and he sees this place as something with a historic background--a landmark."

Still, closing the last true Skid Row dive bar is going to be anything but easy for Croick, who says the place meant the world to his father, who passed away in December.

"This place has been a dive bar since I've been coming here as a kid with my dad, ordering milk and sitting on that stool," says Croick. "And to do it any other way wouldn't be my vision because it wouldn't represent me or my family."

To his extended bar family--the people who have been drinking at King Eddy Saloon since before he was born--he promises to make the rest of the bar's days count with rolling drink deals and a closing night bash for the ages. (Leko says King Eddy will remain in its current incarnation through the summer at least.)

"I'm sorry it's closing, I'm sorry we couldn't keep it going," says Croick. "It was great while it lasted. I hope our regulars find a new King Eddy that they will love just as much because as much as they will miss it so will I. When I have to walk out of this place, turn out the lights and shut the door, it will be the hardest thing I've ever done."

King Eddy Saloon, 131 E. 5th St., L.A. (213) 629-2013; http://www.kingeddysaloon.com.


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 Post subject: Re: 2 days in Los Angeles
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I did not read the whole thread, but is this the bar they used in Barfly?


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I did not read the whole thread, but is this the bar they used in Barfly?


No that was a bar called Big Ed's in Culver City. It was torn down and turned into a parking lot a long time ago.


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shit man, now i'm REALLY pissed that we didn't check it out. billy, you heading over for a few before they close their doors?


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Ah, I missed this thread. I did damage in about a third on the list. Was arrested once after a night at the Spotlight (refernced in the blog), one of the roughest bars in the country. I remember at the Frolic Room where the bartender would pour booze down the trough on the bar, light up, flames jumping, and no one would notice it or flinch.

But the best dive in LA (also no longer there) was The Circle in Ocean Park/Venice... a big circle of a bar in the middle of a dark room, "I Fall to Pieces" on the jukebox at least once an hour... I think there were some drunks who had been sitting in the same place for decades. It was a real Bukowski haunt, meaning the real Bukowski was there. Penelope Spheris' mother was bartender in her stretch pants and limp, "Dixie." We will not regret the past, not attempt to close the door....

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Jesus, I did a search and it still exists... although I am sure it's gentrified with the rest of Venice and Ocean Park in the last 30 years.

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Dalen Wrote:
billy, you heading over for a few before they close their doors?


Probably not. I don't spend a lot time in bars anymore and to the extent that I do I think I'm past the point in my life where hanging out in a skid row bar drinking bad beer and cheap whiskey sounds that appealing. I suspect anyway that the closer you get to the end, the more it will be filled with hipsters wanting to experience it once and the less authentic the experience it will have anyway.

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Jesus, I did a search and it still exists... although I am sure it's gentrified with the rest of Venice and Ocean Park in the last 30 years.


Yep, it's still there but much different than what you'd remember. Velvet rope on Weekends with a long line to get in.


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Short film about King Eddy's patrons to be filmed at King Eddy's tonight. I can't make it but more info for anyone (Cotton?) who might be potentially interested can be found here.


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Last two weeks of King Eddy Saloon before it closes.


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