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Fu pretty much nailed it (again!).

I like the "Eat Mor Chikin" campaign a lot more than I probably should, but we all know where my loyalties lie.


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jewels santana Wrote:
Didn't the first amendment come into play when Rahm Emanuel said he wouldn't allow them in Chicago? I can't find any non mouth breather websites that give a full account of what he said so who knows what he actually said.


You could make an argument that putting up barriers to keep a business (in this case CFA) out of your community who's values don't reflect the perceived values of said community is applicable. I mean, try and open a "tobacco" shop, dildo dispensary or tattoo parlor in certain towns and see how that goes. You might get further with a Bloomberg style "fast food is garbage" argument.

I would not want to be the one to defend any of it in court, however.

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Didn't the first amendment come into play when Rahm Emanuel said he wouldn't allow them in Chicago? I can't find any non mouth breather websites that give a full account of what he said so who knows what he actually said.


No. Not one iota. The First Amendment doesn't say "You can say whatever you want without any consequences whatsoever" it says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

So, these fat mouth breathers fapping at justhowgaytheyaren't while in line for bleached chicken fried in peanut oil are actually proving it has nothing to do with abridging their First Amendment rights. Now, if they had a chic fil a in Chicago, and this contingent in Illinois was standing on line and Rahm had CPD go all 68 convention on them THEN it would have something to do with the First Amendment.

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jewels santana Wrote:
Didn't the first amendment come into play when Rahm Emanuel said he wouldn't allow them in Chicago? I can't find any non mouth breather websites that give a full account of what he said so who knows what he actually said.


No. Not one iota. The First Amendment doesn't say "You can say whatever you want without any consequences whatsoever" it says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

So, these fat mouth breathers fapping at justhowgaytheyaren't while in line for bleached chicken fried in peanut oil are actually proving it has nothing to do with abridging their First Amendment rights. Now, if they had a chic fil a in Chicago, and this contingent in Illinois was standing on line and Rahm had CPD go all 68 convention on them THEN it would have something to do with the First Amendment.

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 Post subject: Re: Chick Fil-A Thread: ¡Viva la Revolución! (and a small Coke)
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I thought the religious right were pioneers of boycotting things they did not like? But now, they consider anyone else boycotting an affront to their rights? Utterly preposterous, laughable.

Still, I am not at all comfortable with politicians trying to filter out businesses coming to their communities due to the owners' religious/political beliefs at all. If as communities we choose not to eat there and support them with our dollars and they go out of business, great. Democracy and free markets in action there. But to have public officials who are supposed to be serving everyone in their communities, not just those who agree with them politically putting up artificial barriers and picking and choosing who passes the thought police test for who gets to do business in their town? I find that pretty fucking shitty.


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I thought the religious right were pioneers of boycotting things they did not like? But now, they consider anyone else boycotting an affront to their rights? Utterly preposterous, laughable.

Still, I am not at all comfortable with politicians trying to filter out businesses coming to their communities due to the owners' religious/political beliefs at all. If as communities we choose not to eat there and support them with our dollars and they go out of business, great. Democracy and free markets in action there. But to have public officials who are supposed to be serving everyone in their communities, not just those who agree with them politically putting up artificial barriers and picking and choosing who passes the thought police test for who gets to do business in their town? I find that pretty fucking shitty.

I agree with all of this.

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 Post subject: Re: Chick Fil-A Thread: ¡Viva la Revolución! (and a small Coke)
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There actually is a Chick-Fil-A in either the Boston or Chicago metro area. I forget which. I saw some article somewhere a little while ago where the owner of the franchise sent an open letter or something to whichever of these two mayors it was, pleading their case as a positive component of their community.

But yeah, this whole thing.


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Also, I've never had chick-fil-a. But all this hub-bub makes me wonder if it's any good. Don't know where one is around here though.


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Ideally, I wish the following had happened...

- Chick Fil A had gotten the go ahead and opened a store on the freedom trail downtown.
- Dan Cathy (billy g - president of the company, and I believe the son of founder Truet Cathy) makes his comments.
- Boston, being more-than-not populated with people who care about such things, shows up outside the business and pickets it back to the fucking stone age for as long as it takes.
- Chick Fil A vacates.

That's a much cleaner progression, versus mayor proclamations, and it makes chick fil a waste more money here / rake in less in protests across the south. I hate that this is a giant pr boon, and an excuse for people who hate gays to go eat fast food and feel righteous about it.

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This whole thing is ridiculous. If an owner's politics bothers you that much, don't eat there. End of story. Otherwise STFU. In my eyes, BOTH the people calling for a boycott and the people calling for people to patronize Chik-Fil-A are over the top blowhards.

It's the same way with a musical artist. Don't like an artists' politics/sexual preferences/attitude toward women to the point where it really, really bothers you? Fine, don't listen and move on.

It's not like there's only one choice out there.

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imo, their sandwiches are halfway decent, probably a degree better than McDs chicken sandwiches. waffle fries are pretty tasty, although i prefer Arbys curly fries for my potato jonesing.

the only one around here is in the campus food court, which i haven't been to in years. and now i'm a bit too embarrassed by proxy for everyone involved* in this whole thing that it will be a while before i'm motivated to go out of my way to visit one again.












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nobody Wrote:
Also, I've never had chick-fil-a. But all this hub-bub makes me wonder if it's any good. Don't know where one is around here though.

Ask FT Bob.

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i tried to look for that burning Chick Fil-A image today, but GIS'ing "burning chick fil-a" produces interesting results at this time

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jewels santana Wrote:
Didn't the first amendment come into play when Rahm Emanuel said he wouldn't allow them in Chicago? I can't find any non mouth breather websites that give a full account of what he said so who knows what he actually said.


If they were denied a permit based on their political views, they could definitely make a case.

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jewels santana Wrote:
Didn't the first amendment come into play when Rahm Emanuel said he wouldn't allow them in Chicago? I can't find any non mouth breather websites that give a full account of what he said so who knows what he actually said.


If they were denied a permit based on their political views, they could definitely make a case.


I'm no lawyer but yeah, I had that thought when I saw Menino's letter too. If he / they had just stopped at "I can't stop you from applying but just know your views are not welcomed here" they'd have been on better footing.

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so what's the sensible argument in favor of dry counties?

seems like a belief-trumping-commerce situation if there ever was one. but what do i know...




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so what's the sensible argument in favor of dry counties?

seems like a belief-trumping-commerce situation if there ever was one. but what do i know...




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They are restricting certain business activity, not speech. All you need to take that action is a rational basis for the law (stopping scourge of demon liquor). The Chick fil A thing would be a viewpoint based action...much more problematic.

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I love how nobody has any fucking clue what's going on in Lousiana. That, or grey means "14 year olds can drink."

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Interesting that dry counties seem to be more a thing with Appalachia than the Deep South. I didn't realize that although I'd always heard that a lot of Kentucky is dry.

I guess LA is grey b/c they have generally the most lax alcohol laws of any state? WV I don't get.


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you can pretty much drink hairspray in the streets in WV

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What is semi-dry exactly? Certain business can't sell certain types of alcohol (no liquor at grocery stores, for example)?


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*but mostly these people:



and then there is this guy.



Lots of misguided people on both sides.

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What is semi-dry exactly? Certain business can't sell certain types of alcohol (no liquor at grocery stores, for example)?


Either beer/wine and no liquor or possibly buy but not serve by the drink.

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it was in alabama...2001 i think it was...that i first became aware of the concept of a dry county.

i was in an applebees, my throat was parched.

i was forsaken. alone.


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