Well, we've had a player arrested for 2 straight weeks after big wins.

I can draw a line directly to your posts.

LOL

i assure you, the cowboys absorb the vast majority of my bad mojo

Packers 1-2
Patriots 1-2
Steelers 1-2

&, of course, of those three, only the Steelers have not been hosed by the officials. Rooneys give it good to Goodell, the Reddy Bottom gives it back just as well.

Cardinals 3-0
Falcons 3-0
Texans 3-0

&, of course, the Cardinals should have at least one loss, & the Seahawks could well be undefeated. (I am preparing for Simmons to write a follow up "Team of Destiny, Pt. 2" about the S'hawks. Russell Wilson is living a charmed life. He's like a more talented 1999 Shaun King in the Music Video "Beat Me in St. Louis".)

I wrote about 15 different posts to different places after I got home, what I said in MOST OF THEM, but not here(not intentionally mind you) was that in the first 4 replays that it did look like a simultaneous catch - the 5th replay, the one that we are seeing again and again today - shows that while Tate has 1 arm in there the whole time that another one comes away. I just expected to see it immediately once I watched it....not on the 4th replay.

Also, I'm not sure what you know about the rules, but you can't award a interception on a play that was called a completion to the other team - Once it was called a TD you are simply looking for INDISPUTABLE proof that there was NOT possession by the player who was determined on the field to have possession.....and that ISN'T AS CLEAR(like I said 4 out of 5 angles looked like he had it). If this leads to a rule change and you can award a change of possession on a review, then so be it, it probably is called an interception, game over, we lose.

I also think that people who weren't at the game don't realize that we didn't see any replays of the play there - once the play was signaled a TD, it was pure pandemonium...bigger than the Beast Mode run (sorry for bringing it up, Saint & Stop Breathin), bigger than the Romo botched snap(sorry for bringing it up, FT and Loog). If that call had been overturned - it would have been a FULL SCALE RIOT - The rest of the nation can whine and complain all day today and for the next week/month/year but at least this way, nobody got hurt (other than Vegas)

Finally, the Packers punt on their TD drive if they aren't gifted a horrible PI call on 3rd down. They might have driven again, but they wouldn't have scored on that drive that gave them the lead

this is correct. every home team should win so that the home fans are content and do not cause damage or harm.

IT'S OBAMA'S FAULT!
BLAME THE UNIONS!

even though scott walker seemingly ironically tweeted in support of the officials, it's a whole different ballgame with private unions.

Brady+Rogers+Brees+Manning=Same amount of wins as Kevin Kolb (3)

I agree that the last call in the Sea/GB game was botched. But no more egregiously than 4 other calls in the fourth quarter, affecting both teams equally, all of which were as big of game changers as that last one: one phantom PI call on each team that extended drives, the roughing call that went against GB that nullified a pick, and the overturned mark on the goalline going against Sea that would've forced GB into a FG instead of the TD.

Bottom line is that the replacement referees were terrible in this game and made many potentially game-changing errors, not just the last call. For obvious reasons, that is the call getting all the attention today.

Hey Marco, somebody has been claiming that on the roughing the passer play that nullified the pick that the Green Bay defender may not have gotten both feet down anyways- were you able to see that portion? (I haven't rewatched that portion yet) I think it was probably a BS call, but said at the time (and earlier on a similar play) that defenders have to be smart about plays like that when the QB is running away from them - It is a lot easier to claim something is an accident if they aren't literally diving at a guy's legs after he threw the ball. If he's standing there then you can usually get away with it under the guise of following through.

While the Chancellor PI on Finley on the third down pass on the Packers touchdown drive was ticky-tacky Chancellor did hit Finley before the ball got there. Probably shouldn't have been called but it's nowhere in the same league as the Shields PI call or the final play.

Matt, the replays may have made it look that way, but that play was coming RIGHT at me - That ball is thrown on a straight line in Chancellor's direction(but short of where he was) - he literally comes STRAIGHT forward to play the ball and Finley actually comes into Chancellor as Chancellor is arriving at the ball. The NFL has made it clear in the past that the defender has a right to the ball as well.



ETA .gif of the play - where is that contact before the ball got there???

I completely disagree. That is definitely not PI and that would've made it 4th and 2 at the 47 yard line. GB punts in that situation and doesn't score the go-ahead TD on that drive. I think that puts it in the same league as the Shields (non) PI call as well as the final call (not to mention the reversal on the goal line)---they're all total game changers. I sense we'll not come to a consensus on this and we'll have to agree to disagree.

If you guys were bigger fans of the SEC you would be used to (and thus numb) to officiating this bad.

I thought the booth officials were the regular ones, not replacements. Or am I getting my info wrong?

Nope, you are correct - Booth Officials are truly "Official"

Bad angle. I'll look for the side angle later.

Not to mention dirty players.

Matt, even Jennings now acknowledges that as Rodgers had left the pocket that play was "Plausibly legal" because defensive players could then contact the offensive players.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/20362294/packers-wr-greg-jennings-has-turbulent-night

FWIW, I'm not going to deny in the grand scheme of things that it was a dirty play, followed up by a nice body slam when Jennings came after him. If Jennings keeps his composure and doesn't throw the punch at the end of the play then the flag is probably only on Browner. As a football fan I like it when my team plays with reckless abandon sometimes - as I said last week, this isn't Flag Football. It is kind of NICE to have a guy who dirties things up a bit on your team. I now see why Hines Ward was so universally revered in Pittsburgh.

And while the Pack certainly has a long standing history, lets not make them out to be choir-boys......a number of Green Bay defenders play with that same sort of reckless abandon - and sometimes they cross the line too.

It ISN"T a bad angle though - sure it doesn't support what you are claiming(that Kam bumped Finley before the ball got there) but it illustrates what I said in my earlier post - that Chancellor comes straight forward and plays the ball.

So it's okay when it's your guy?




Russell Wilson was running outside the pocket. He's fair game at that point. It wasn't helmet to helmet or anything.

The game is probably OVER after that play. The Packers are inside the 30 with about 8 to go. There were crap calls all night. Even worse than the Falcs/Broncos game but this was pretty egregious and allowed for all the other bad calls to take place afterwards.

Derris, all I'm saying is that if I'm a defender going after a QB I'm going to do EVERYTHING I CAN DO to not get into a QB's legs - the NFL made that a point of emphasis after the Brady and Palmer knee injuries a few years ago. I agree that it was ticky-tack but watching it live I was not at all surprised to see a flag.

Also, I think I mentioned up-thread that I had heard someone online say that the defender may not have gotten both feet in on the resulting interception anyways - I re-watched it last night and whoever said this was wrong....he clearly got both feet in.. Game isn't necessarily over though - 8 mins were left on the clock, not 3 or 4 - certainly it would have been tough to come back from and Green Bay probably would have scored to go up by more than 1 TD - but this game was VERY back and forth and the Hawks defense had stopped the Pack frequently throughout the night....

Finally, I acknowledged that Browner's play often crosses into dirty territory - I even said that I like him for it. I was just pointing out to Matt that even Jennings said that he(Jennings) probably over-reacted.

I will say that this thing is reaching a fever pitch and to the point where it's getting nigh impossible for these replacements to do their job. I mean, they HAVE to know how much their feet are to the fire this week. Still the NFL stands pat.

I honestly wonder how long it'll take before a player loses his shit on one of these guys in the heat of battle.

This has been a really funny fiasco to watch...and over PEANUTS. When I read today what the cost to the league/owners is to meet the demands of the officials, I was astounded. What a bunch of rich dopes.