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Bloor please tell me you went outside and took that pic for this thread.


yep. good lookin guitar though, eh?

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Laibach should cover this.


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nice garage. what's that tractor looking thing?

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nice garage. what's that tractor looking thing?

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That's my detached garage. Half garage&shop/half music room. The "tractor" you mention is a Scag Tiger Cub, a very serious zero-degree turning mower; i use it on my commercial properties, but it ain't a bad thing to have around when you have my backyard......

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What's a backyard again? Oh right...

I initially thought it was a mower of some sort, but I couldn't think of a reason why you would have one that size.

So there's the answer: you're into big mowers.

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man i didn't know that it was a beatles song either.


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I don't know how you could avoid hearing the Beatles' Across the Universe.

However, I have to admit I still don't know the lyrics.

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Not to be a complete History wonk or anything BUT Jethro Tull IS a Guy, AND a Band. Just read this entry from Britannia...

"Jethro Tull
(1674-1741)
Born: 1674 at Basilson, Berkshire
Agriculturalist
Died: 1741 at Hungerford, Berkshire


Jethro Tull (1674-1741), born in Basildon in 1674, was a major pioneer in the modernisation of agriculture. The son of a Berkshire farmer, he trained for a legal career, but financial problems compelled him to opt instead for farming. Determined to improve agricultural methods and increase yields, Tull experimented at Howberry farm, Crowmarsh, near Wallingford with a seed-drill which could sew three rows of seeds simultaneously. Later, he devised a horse-drawn hoe to clear away weeds. In 1731, Tull published his ideas about farming and plant nutrition in The New Horse Houghing Husbandry: or, an Essay on the Principles of Tillage and Vegetation'. Despite initial resistance to Tull's revolutionary ideas, they were eventually adopted by large landowners, and in time formed the basis of modern agriculture. Tull died at Prosperous Farm, near Hungerford on 21 February 1741. "

link from... http://www.britannia.com/bios/jtull.html

and then there is Jethro Tull the band... from allmusic.com...

"Jethro Tull was a unique phenomenon in popular music history. Their mix of hard rock; folk melodies; blues licks; surreal, impossibly dense lyrics; and overall profundity defied easy analysis, but that didn't dissuade fans from giving them 11 gold and five platinum albums. At the same time, critics rarely took them seriously, and they were off the cutting edge of popular music since the end of the 1970s. But no record store in the country would want to be without multiple copies of each of their most popular albums (Benefit, Aqualung, Thick as a Brick, Living in the Past), or their various best-of compilations, and few would knowingly ignore their newest releases. Of their contemporaries, only Yes could claim a similar degree of success, and Yes endured several major shifts in sound and membership in reaching the 1990s, while Tull remained remarkably stable over the same period. As co-founded and led by wildman-flautist-guitarist-singer-songwriter Ian Anderson, the group carved a place all its own in popular music.

Tull had its roots in the British blues boom of the late '60s. Anderson (b. Aug. 10, 1947, Edinburgh, Scotland) had moved to Blackpool when he was 12. His first band was called the Blades, named after James Bond's club, with Michael Stephens on guitar, Jeffrey Hammond-Hammond (b. July 30, 1946) on bass and John Evans (b. Mar. 28, 1948) on drums, playing a mix of jazzy blues and soulful dance music on the northern club circuit. In 1965, they changed their name to the John Evan Band (Evan having dropped the "s" in his name at Hammond's suggestion) and later the John Evan Smash. By the end of 1967, Glenn Cornick (b. Apr. 24, 1947, Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, England) had replaced Hammond-Hammond on bass. The group moved to Luton in order to be closer to London, the center of the British blues boom, and the band began to fall apart, when Anderson and Cornick met guitarist/singer Mick Abrahams (b. Apr. 7, 1943, Luton, Bedfordshire, England) and drummer Clive Bunker (b. Dec. 12, 1946), who had previously played together in the Toggery Five and were now members of a local blues band called McGregor's Engine.

In December of 1967, the four of them agreed to form a new group. They began playing two shows a week, trying out different names, including Navy Blue and Bag of Blues. One of the names that they used, Jethro Tull, borrowed from an 18th-century farmer/inventor, proved popular and memorable, and it stuck. In January of 1968, they cut a rather derivative pop-folk single called "Sunshine Day," released by MGM Records (under the misprinted name Jethro Toe) the following month. The single went nowhere, but the group managed to land a residency at the Marquee Club in London, where they became very popular."



Sorry top be such a know-it-all jerk here... But as a European History Teacher I've always taught Jethro the man to introduce the Agricultural Revolution in England in the early 1700's that freed up the workforce necessary for the new Industrial Revolution gaining momentum in the midlands of England... Then I play them Aqualung at full blast...


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... But as a European History Teacher I've always taught Jethro the man to introduce the Agricultural Revolution in England in the early 1700's that freed up the workforce necessary for the new Industrial Revolution gaining momentum in the midlands of England... Then I play them Aqualung at full blast...


<- hopes onebrownjeff works at a school for the deaf...and non-responsive to prog rhythms...

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onebrownjeff Wrote:
... But as a European History Teacher I've always taught Jethro the man to introduce the Agricultural Revolution in England in the early 1700's that freed up the workforce necessary for the new Industrial Revolution gaining momentum in the midlands of England... Then I play them Aqualung at full blast...


<- hopes onebrownjeff works at a school for the deaf...and non-responsive to prog rhythms...


I've been a Jethro Tull fan since I was four years old. And will die a fan.


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... But as a European History Teacher I've always taught Jethro the man to introduce the Agricultural Revolution in England in the early 1700's that freed up the workforce necessary for the new Industrial Revolution gaining momentum in the midlands of England... Then I play them Aqualung at full blast...


<- hopes onebrownjeff works at a school for the deaf...and non-responsive to prog rhythms...


I've been a Jethro Tull fan since I was four years old. And will die a fan.


That's fine - there are hundreds of people who loose an arm in some mishap (wheat thrasher, car accident) every day.... They usually die with one arm as well..

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Actually, I usually punk out and only play them "Bungle In The Jungle"

I also like to play the They Might Be Giants cover of "The Sun Is A Mass Of Incandescent Gas" during the whole Scientific Revolution too. Sometimes I skimp and only do the surf version.

Lately I've been trying to find a way to work in the New Romantic movement of the 1980's to the real romantic movement in Britian and Germany in the mid 1800's... tough sell I know, but a fella has to dream... Adam and the Ants to Goethe... Duran Duran to Keats...


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That's fine - there are hundreds of people who loose an arm in some mishap (wheat thrasher, car accident) every day.... They usually die with one arm as well..


For the record, it's "lose", not "loose", and while I don't care for all their work, Benefit is a remarkable album.


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Actually, I usually punk out and only play them "Bungle In The Jungle"

I also like to play the They Might Be Giants cover of "The Sun Is A Mass Of Incandescent Gas" during the whole Scientific Revolution too. Sometimes I skimp and only do the surf version.

Lately I've been trying to find a way to work in the New Romantic movement of the 1980's to the real romantic movement in Britian and Germany in the mid 1800's... tough sell I know, but a fella has to dream... Adam and the Ants to Goethe... Duran Duran to Keats...


- 1st off, thank you Tenozed for point out a (not-too-often) spelling error on my part...

- 2nd off, A Cover does not a band make. I mean, did Nirvana Unplugged make the Vasalines hat much more awesome? Would (insert band here) make T. Rex more awesome? My answer, my dear Obners, is no. Songs by a previous band can be heightened upon performance (ie: Ted Leo:Kelly Clarkson), but a song is a song - no more, frequently less, and it always pays the best respects to consider the source...

Jethro Tull, at it's high points and it's low points, was "never worth nothin'", to quote []}Newsies[/i]...

Defending this on a song-by-song basis is null and void to me...

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Postmersh Wrote:
- 1st off, thank you Tenozed for point out a (not-too-often) spelling error on my part...

- 2nd off, A Cover does not a band make. I mean, did Nirvana Unplugged make the Vasalines hat much more awesome? Would (insert band here) make T. Rex more awesome? My answer, my dear Obners, is no. Songs by a previous band can be heightened upon performance (ie: Ted Leo:Kelly Clarkson), but a song is a song - no more, frequently less, and it always pays the best respects to consider the source...

Jethro Tull, at it's high points and it's low points, was "never worth nothin'", to quote []}Newsies[/i]...

Defending this on a song-by-song basis is null and void to me...

THANK YOU, COME AGAIN....


Postmersh,

We can discuss it when the toluene wears off...........


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tentoze Wrote:
Postmersh Wrote:
- 1st off, thank you Tenozed for point out a (not-too-often) spelling error on my part...

- 2nd off, A Cover does not a band make. I mean, did Nirvana Unplugged make the Vasalines hat much more awesome? Would (insert band here) make T. Rex more awesome? My answer, my dear Obners, is no. Songs by a previous band can be heightened upon performance (ie: Ted Leo:Kelly Clarkson), but a song is a song - no more, frequently less, and it always pays the best respects to consider the source...

Jethro Tull, at it's high points and it's low points, was "never worth nothin'", to quote []}Newsies[/i]...

Tentoze,
If you require a point-by-point as to why I (personally) don'tg respect Jethro Tull all that much, than you're welcom to a blow-by-blow...

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Postmersh,


We can discuss it when the toluene wears off...........


Toulene? TOULENE?

I cannot believe that..,
omeone could follow a specific pattern from BTS and not require a play-by-play as to the effficiency of Jethro Tull nor the eneptitude of Post-TNWWR BTS... That strikes me as crazy - What you're proposing is God-Damned_Near INSANE...

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I could go point to point on Jethro Tull for days straight, but I've been a fan for so long, it won't serve any purpose.

I can pretty much sum up the extent of the counterarguments right now:

They'll include references to how dumb "Bungle In The Jungle" is, will mention that flute has no place in rock & roll, and will scoff at D& D medieval imagery.

They will not include any actual awareness of the several hundred non-Bungle songs Tull have done except quoting something from "Aqualung," nor will they show any familiarity with the complexity of Anderson's lyrics and how much he tackles politics, satire and philosophy.

But there will be a bunch of "crazy, peg-legged prog faggot" quips.

So, there's no point going point by point. Only con arguments that hold up after actually familiarizing oneself with the Tull is "I don't like the fruity folky noodling shit."


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The first version I ever heard of it was from the big 6-disc box set, and was a studio-only take. I loooved it. Then, I heard the album version, and was let-down. The album version was much more "hippy" than the studio, with tambourines and hippy chicks wailing in the background, whereas the studio cut was clean, honest, simple, and heart-breakingly beautiful. Look for it.


It's funny bro, because I remember having this conversation with you about this song, round about the time those Anthologies were coming out...Just when you think I'm too drunk to think ;)

Nice mower, Kurtz...and I though the other half was a radio studio?

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That strikes me as crazy - What you're proposing is God-Damned_Near INSANE...


Ahhhhh.....my work here is done.......

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...the complexity of Anderson's lyrics....


"...snot is running down his nose...."


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ayah Wrote:
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...the complexity of Anderson's lyrics....


"...snot is running down his nose...."


Yeah, that's my first point proven right there.

Aqualung reference used as some sort of definitive dismissal of a band that has like 300 songs.


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