I wouldn't hire a lawyer that shirked away from competition or found competitive people threatening/discomforting.

I want my lawyer driving in to work listening to Motorhead, not Kenny G.

my friend's a lawyer & his favorite music is pavement, beck & nirvana. kenny's gotsta G.O.

I've feeling that way about UGA and Bama...This is my newest excuse for not having taken the LSAT yet.

Any of y'all have advice on taking a prep course v. not?

I have heard three or four conflicting opinions.

I would advise against taking Kaplan or Princeton. I taught for TestMasters, and it's a great program. I didn't take a prep class personally, but for some they're really helpful. Consider TestMasters or Powerscore, but only after you've taken a practice exam and are sure you can't get the score you want without spending the $1200.

George the Animal Steele is alive and well, thank you very much.

What's the deal w/ practice exams? Like out of a book or something, or do you actually go and take a test?

A friend who went to Cumberland (in Bama) told me to take it cold, and the guy I worked for last election cycle (who is, afterall a District Attorney) said I should just get the review books and peruse them, but that he thought I would do fine.

Another friend said she went from 162 to 173 after taking Kaplan, and then a good friend of mine said he got like 154 on the practice, studied by himself and got a 163....

I need 165 to get into UGA or Bama...OK grades and hellafied references (a former Gov, a former Senate Majority Leader and a sitting DA and congressman have all said they would write a rec for me) should do the trick.... tell me why I'm not doing anything to push this forward? Oh yeah, because I am a king hell procrastinator and can't even commit to living in on place, let alone going to school.

I took Kaplan for the GMAT, and it's the best $700 I've ever spent. I did decent on the pre-test, better on the post-test, and drilled the real thing.

The class was an effective reminder of the math and grammar that I'd forgotten from high school, combined with test taking strategies that teach you complete everything within the time limits (which is what screws up most people). They have archives upon archives of old tests so you can practice. The confidence you get from having taken prior tests and hopefully having nailed them is priceless.

The price may have changed (I took the GMAT in '94), but still I stand by it.

Awesome news! I would swear that I read his obit about two years ago.

My newest grad school application fear: I lost touch with most (wait, all) of my college profs. I did fairly well at undergrad, haven't exactly achieved much since graduating, but if I test well, I might actually apply to schools like NYU, if I can find a prof who is still alive, sane, etc.

Or I could just sit here at work and post on webboards the rest of my life. Wouldn't that be a hoot?

KPH

You can order the most recently released exams directly from www.lsac.org - they're the best indication of how you'll do. Princeton (and I think Kaplan, too) make up their own questions instead of licensing real LSAC questions, so they're not up to the same standards and are thus a poor indication of how you'll do. If you take the TestMasters course and do all of the homework, you are exposed to every LSAT question ever released to the public. Not to be a pusher...

I've got many friends that go to, but will be graduating in May from Emory. They seem to enjoy it.

HAHA, nice plug Haq...Is there an obnerian discount you can get me?

Emory would be cool for me Stu, except that for me the education is comparable at GSU (and better at UGA) with the added bonus of being hella cheaper. Plus, I'm pretty anti-private school.

Why are you anti-private school?

KPH

Cuz he's a democrat. More wealth redistribution in public schools.

8P

Close, but unless its Harvard, Yale or Stanford, I think you're wasting your money...and even then I think that its more about the connections made than the actual education recieved.

It cost me exactly $0 in tuition to go to The University of Georgia. Not that its in anybody's tope ten schools, but hell it's all right, and for the price unbeatable. (plus, it helped mold me into the football crazed bourbon fiend you all know and love)

And billze, you are correct, I think one of the greatest things about this country is the access to public education, and I for one would rather take advantage of it.

Wealth redistribution? Go talk to the instructors at UMASS.

That's pretty cool Loogar. Alas, the same can't be said for the Mass. public school system when it comes to law school.

KPH

I'm with you 100%. As far as public policy goes, education is the best public investment we can make. Incidentally, I didn't go to private school until grad school (not a whole lot of decent public biz schools, law schools OTOH...). Unfortunately, public education falls apart when the public area becomes so big (and it's power to oversee becomes so dilluted) that the schools avoid accountability (as is the case in most big cities).

I lived in a small town, with a very active PTA that ensured standards were kept high and met. My big-assed state school had effective enough management that insisted the school competed on a par or close enough to the better private schools, including the Ivy leagues. My undergrad alma mater actually boasts one of the better law schools in the NE.

Yeah, I mean, if there's not an option, you gotta do what you gotta do. I just enjoy being part of the dirty unwashed masses.

Loog,

Kaplan blows. I got a pretty high score on their pre-test. Then I did one point worse on the actual LSAT. I still did pretty damn good but I was hoping for mid 170's. I had another friend with a similar experience. I think these classes are only really good if you suck at the games section. Unfortunately I found those were my strong suit. Thank god for those years of math team loserdom.

The only thing I got out of the class was a feeling of familiarity with the test. If I had just ordered a bunch of fucking test from LSAC I could have gotten the same thig out of it. Dude if you have above a 3.2 you should be able to get into UGA with a 162-163.

you know the minimum GPA to keep HOPE? That's what I had the entire time....actually got worse as time went by and realized that I hated Journalism as a course of study...oh well...By all accounts mid 160s is doable and should get me in to one of the schools I want.