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Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

Villains United >>>> OMEC

Dusty, how was Remains?
Steve Niles manages to creep me out pretty regularly, but The Walking Dead is probably the best zombie tale i've heard in a decade.

shiv · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:25 pm

Dusty Chalk Wrote:

I'm still on a Niles/Templesmith kick. Just finished:

Up next:

[img][321:500]http://www.steveniles.com/gallery/albums/remains/remainstpb.sized.jpg[/img]

I think I've read Remains. It's pretty good. What's Singularity about?

shiv · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:27 pm

Cotton Wrote:

Villains United >>>> OMEC

Dusty, how was Remains?
Steve Niles manages to creep me out pretty regularly, but The Walking Dead is probably the best zombie tale i've heard in a decade.

Are you up to #3 on Villains United yet? The part with Catman on the operating table is great.

I need to pick up The Walking Dead. It looks like it has a really deep storyline to it.

el_scorcho · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:31 pm

I mostly read Marvel. Pretty much the only DC I read is Vertigo stuff. And even that's really just 100 Bullets (which is starting to disappoint a little) and Grant Morrison's recent string of mini-series (We3, SeaGuy, and Vimanarama). It sucks DC signed him to an exclusive contract. New X-men was pretty sweet. I did pick up the new Frank Miller/Jim Lee Batman and Robin thing. It has some promise. I never really liked the DC characters, besides Batman and maybe Green Arrow. They all seem horribly dated, and completely lacking of any grit. They were made for a different time when people wanted their heroes to be completely super-human and fantastic. There's never been a good DC equivalent to the X-men or Daredevil. With the exception of Batman when he is done right.

Also, I refuse to buy Infinite Crisis or House of M, because to me the multi-book, entire company cross-over series is always a bad idea. It, along with the mulitple-cover or special trading card inside capitalize on the fan boy attitude, is what killed comics for me in the early 90's. These things will get you to try and buy fucking Alpha Flight or something just to know what's going on in the whole huge story and then you end up buying a bunch of crap written by B level comics writers.

Good call on Runaways, alongdrive. Brian K. Vaughn is the shit right now. Y the Last Man, Runaways, and Ex Machina are some of the best comics being made right now.

Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

yeah, that's one of the reasons that i'm lovin' VU. I know next to none of those characters, but they've been consistently entertaining. especially parademon.

Walking Dead's first 2 trade paperbacks are worth picking up. kinda sucks it's black & white, but it's not like you don't get a good feel of things. i kinda wish 30 days of night were b&w.

shiv · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:34 pm

Cotton Wrote:

especially parademon.

"THANK YOU GRANNY, MAY I HAVE ANOTHER? HAHAHA" that was great.

Dusty Chalk · **Posted:** Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:06 pm

Cotton Wrote:

Dusty, how was Remains?

I've only just started reading it, but it's already enjoyable. It seems to be a take on Romero's realm. But with drugs and sex and stupidity.

shiv Wrote:

What's Singularity about?

Singularity 7...and it's about...um...nanobots...sort of. It's also sort of a vampire/swamp thing/end of the world/Fantastic Four kind of story.

Why Swamp Thing? I don't know, because I get tired of the whole Frankenstein analogy.

Red Hood Suite · **Joined:** Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:47 pm **Posts:** 610

OPA! Wrote:

So this weekend, I ended up buying...

SUPERMAN #219 - Part 1 of the SACRIFICE series

GREEN LANTERN #1

GREEN LANTERN #2

I'm also going to get the new Batman & Robin, and the Green Lantern Rebirth series.

What did you thinik of Superman? I really like what they are doing to big blue.

Allstar Batman and Robin was great. Cant wait for the next issue.

I have not been impressed with the last two GL issues.

Red Hood Suite · **Joined:** Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:47 pm **Posts:** 610

shiv Wrote:

OPA! Wrote:

HaqDiesel Wrote:

wow, pretty cool. what issue of what comic did superman beat batman?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. All I know is there's this series called IDENTITY CRISIS that reveals a huge secret within the JLA, and then comes the OMAC PROJECT where Wonder Woman and Superman go at it. And then there's something called INFINITE CRISIS where again members of the JLA turn on each other. Chaotic and I'll figure it out some day.

Hopefully, someone could bring us up to speed.

*SPOILERS*
I'm not sure if this is in the correct order as in the books.

In Identity Crisis someone kills Elongated Man's wife, Sue Dibny. Dr. Light is one of the main suspects and it's revealed that he tried to kill/rape her earlier and Hawkman, Green Arrow, Zatanna, Black Canary and a few others stopped him and then decided to wipe his mind so he would no longer be a threat. Batman walked in on them doing this, Zatanna stopped him and then they wiped Batman's mind of this incident. Flash found out about this and said they had to tell Batman about this or he'd tell Batman himself. Robin's father and Captain Boomerang kill each other. Dr. Light hires Deathstroke to be his bodyguard when Hawkman, Zatanna, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Flash & Black Canary come after him. There's an awesome fight with Deathstroke taking on all of them. Then Dr. Light remembers that they wiped his mind and escapes.

This is kinda where I thought the series fell apart.

The Atom's wife is almost killed and it's finally revealed that she stole the Atom's gear and is the one that killed Sue Dibny. I forget if Flash tells Batman what happened or if he finds out himself but Batman is pretty much pissed off about this and I think he leaves the JLA. I'm not sure if I missed anything else. Anyone?

The OMAC Project is pretty good so far. I'll leave that one spoiler free for now.

I didn't care too much for the ending to Identity Crisis. OMAC has been fantastic!

Red Hood Suite · **Joined:** Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:47 pm **Posts:** 610

Cotton Wrote:

Villains United >>>> OMEC

Dusty, how was Remains?
Steve Niles manages to creep me out pretty regularly, but The Walking Dead is probably the best zombie tale i've heard in a decade.

Villains United has been decent so far. Day of Vengenance is the sleeper. Good story

shiv · **Posted:** Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:14 am

I hope Allstar Batman & Robin and Desolation Jones got put in my folder at the comic store. My friend was working there wednesday and I called to ask her to put them in for me but she started being a bitch* when I called so I hung up on her.

* = Sorry but I think whining about me calling you on your cell phone instead of the store phone when you called me 5 times in one hour a few days before qualifies you as a bitch.

Red Hood Suite · **Joined:** Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:47 pm **Posts:** 610

Allstar Bats (1st issue) is not action packed at all, but the last page is awesome!

Damnit, now i'm in the mood to play Batman Begins on XBOX!

Good game, by the way.

alongwaltz. · **Posted:** Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:45 am

el_scorcho Wrote:

...entire company cross-over series is always a bad idea. It, along with the mulitple-cover or special trading card inside capitalize on the fan boy attitude, is what killed comics for me in the early 90's.

This could be written word for word by my father. He collected basically every core Marvel title from the early 70's through to 1994, when he stopped altogether because of too many foil/hologram covers, crossover storylines, and other stuff like that.

I started regularly collecting in '98 so I've still got four years of back issues I'm trying to catch up on.

Red Hood Suite · **Joined:** Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:47 pm **Posts:** 610

This is supposed to be the cover of the first issue ofInfinite Crisis
(due in October).

[img][333:500]http://www.dccomics.com/media/covers/4336_400x600.jpg[/img]

shiv · **Posted:** Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:39 pm

Today I picked up:
JLA #116
Desolation Jones #2
Allstar Batman & Robin #1
100 Bullets #62
Punisher #23

el_scorcho · **Posted:** Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:06 pm

I like Desolation Jones a lot. It reminds me how much I like Warren Ellis sometimes. Which makes me wish he put out a new Planetary issue more than twice a year...

shiv · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:06 am

Re: The last page of JLA #116

Holy shit.

Red Hood Suite · **Joined:** Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:47 pm **Posts:** 610

shiv Wrote:

Re: The last page of JLA #116

Holy shit.

Who is he? I've never heard of him.

shiv · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:36 am

Red Hood Suite Wrote:

shiv Wrote:

Re: The last page of JLA #116

Holy shit.

Who is he? I've never heard of him.

He's Despero. This explains it better than I could. He was in the old JLA series written by Giffen & DeMatteis. That series was sillier than the current one except when Despero showed up once or twice. He killed a bunch of Leaguers in one of the issues, I can't remember which ones. They're writing JLA Classified now if you want to check out what the old JLA was like, tho I don't think their brand of humor has aged well.

Red Hood Suite · **Joined:** Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:47 pm **Posts:** 610

Thats a pretty cool web site.
I bookmarked it.

Thanks!

OPA! · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:32 am

Yeah, I finished JLA #115 and 116 last night. Nice. Hawkman is a bitch, how dare he tell Green Lantern, he's not with the JLA anymore. GL will always be the JLA, in my opinion.

Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

i like that hawkman is a staunch conservative and that green arrow always rides his ass about it.

what comes out today? should i bother with another issue of house of m or albion? probably.

shiv · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:56 pm

Due 7/20

• ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN #642 DC COMICS
• AIDEN MCKAIN CHRONICLES BATTLE #1 DIGITAL WEBBING
• ALTER EGO #50 COMIC NOVELS
• ARCHIE & FRIENDS #93 ARCHIE COMIC PUBLICA
• ARCHIE DIGEST #218 ARCHIE COMIC PUBLICA
• ASTONISHING X-MEN #11 MARVEL COMICS
• ATHEIST #2 IMAGE COMICS
• AUTHORITY REVOLUTION #10 DC COMICS
• BATGIRL #66 DC COMICS
• BATMAN GOTHAM KNIGHTS #67 DC COMICS
• BATMAN JEKYLL AND HIDE #4 DC COMICS
• BETTY & VERONICA DOUBLE DIGEST #135 ARCHIE COMIC PUBLICA
• BILLY THE KIDS OLD TIME ODDITI #4 DARK HORSE COMICS
• BIRDS OF PREY #84 DC COMICS
• BONE COLOR SC #2 GRAPHIX
• CABLE AND DEADPOOL #17 MARVEL COMICS
• CAPTAIN AMERICA OUT TIME HC #1 MARVEL COMICS
• CARTOON NET BLOCK BRING IT TP #1 DC COMICS
• CASTLEVANIA THE BELMONT LEGACY #5 IDW PUBLISHING
• CHRONO CRUSADE TP #6 A. D. VISION
• CLUMSY GN (NEW PTG) #-1 TOP SHELF PRODUCTION
• CONAN #18 DARK HORSE
• DAREDEVIL #75 MARVEL COMICS
• DAY OF VENGEANCE #4 DC COMICS
• DEFENDERS #1 MARVEL COMICS
• DETECTIVE COMICS #808 DC COMICS
• DOCTOR SPECTRUM FULL SPECT TP MARVEL COMICS
• DOCTOR WHO MAGAZINE #358 MARVEL COMICS
• DOCTOR WHO THE TIDE OF TIME GN PANINI PUBLISHING LT
• DONALD DUCK AND FRIENDS #330 GLADSTONE COMICS
• DRAGON MAGAZINE #334 TSR
• EX MACHINA #13 DC COMICS
• EXILES #67 MARVEL COMICS
• FANTASTIC 4 MARVEL ADVENTURES #2 MARVEL COMICS
• FLASH SECRET OF BARRY ALLEN TP DC COMICS
• FORGOTTEN REALMS DARK ELF HOME #2 DEVILS DUE PUBLISHIN
• FRIDAY THE 13TH SP PAINTED CVR #1 AVATAR PRESS
• GATESVILLE COMPANY #1 SPEAKEASY COMICS
• GIRLS #3 IMAGE COMICS
• GLA #4 MARVEL COMICS
• GOLD DIGGER VOL 2 #65 ANTARCTIC PRESS
• GOON #13 DARK HORSE
• GROUNDED #1 IMAGE COMICS
• HEARTBREAKERS MEET BOILERPLATE IDW PUBLISHING
• HELLBOY THE ISLAND #2 DARK HORSE COMICS
• HOUSE OF M #4 MARVEL COMICS
• HOUSE OF M DIRECTOR'S CUT #1 MARVEL COMICS
• HOUSE OF M VARIANT COVER #4 MARVEL COMICS
• HULK #84 MARVEL COMICS
• HUMAN RACE #5 DC COMICS
• I HUNT MONSTERS VOL 2 #7 ANTARCTIC PRESS
• INVINCIBLE ULTIMATE COLL HC #1 IMAGE COMICS
• JSA CLASSIFIED #1 DC COMICS
• KILLER STUNTS INC #3 ALIAS ENTERPRISES LL
• KNIGHTS 4 #20 MARVEL COMICS
• LADY DEATH BELLADONNA AVATAR PRESS
• LADY DEATH DEATH GODDESS AVATAR PRESS
• LOVE AND ROCKETS VOLUME II #14 FANTAGRAPHICS BOOKS
• LUCIFER #64 DC/VERTIGO
• LULLABY WISDOM SEEKER #4 IMAGE COMICS
• MANHUNTER #12 DC COMICS
• MARV MILE DRSTR,SS,SUB HULK #1 MARVEL COMICS
• MARVEL TALES FLIPBOOK #1 MARVEL COMICS
• MEDIEVAL LADY DEATH #5 AVATAR PRESS
• MICKEY MOUSE AND FRIENDS #279 GEMSTONE PUBLISHING
• MICKEY MOUSE MEETS BLOTMAN GEMSTONE PUBLISHING
• MU #4 DEVILS DUE PUBLISHIN
• MUTATION #1 SPEAKEASY COMICS
• NEWTYPE VOL 2 ENGLISH ED. #32 GENERAL ENTERTAINMEN
• NORTHWEST PASSAGE #1 ONI PRESS INC.
• ORORO BEFORE THE STORM #2 MARVEL COMICS
• OZ WONDERLAND CHRONICLES PREVI BUYMETOYS.COM
• PLASTIC MAN #17 DC COMICS
• POWERPUFF GIRLS #64 DC COMICS
• RED SONJA #1 D. E.
• RISING STARS VOICES OF DEAD #2 IMAGE COMICS
• ROBIN #140 DC COMICS
• SCOOBY-DOO #98 DC COMICS
• SECRETS OF HOUSE OF M #1 MARVEL COMICS
• SHOJO BEAT #2 VIZ LLC
• SILENCERS VOL 2 #1 IMAGE COMICS
• SIMPSONS COMICS #108 BONGO COMICS
• SOULFIRE DYING OF THE LIGHT ASPEN MLT INC
• SPIDER-MAN #16 MARVEL COMICS
• SPIDER-MAN HOUSE OF M #2 MARVEL COMICS
• STAR WARS CLONE WARS PB #6 DARK HORSE
• STRYKEFORCE TP IMAGE COMICS
• TALES DESIGNED TO THRIZZLE #1 FANTAGRAPHICS BOOKS
• TALES OF TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA #12 MIRAGE STUDIOS
• TEEN TITANS #26 DC COMICS
• TEEN TITANS GO TP #3 DC COMICS
• THE PULSE SECRET WAR TP #2 MARVEL COMICS
• TOMARTS ACTION FIGURE DIGEST #136 TOMART
• ULTIMATE SPIDER-MAN #80 MARVEL COMICS
• ULTIMATES VOL 2 #7 MARVEL COMICS
• VERONICA #163 ARCHIE COMIC PUBLICA
• WILDGUARD FOOL'S GOLD #2 IMAGA COMICS
• WITCHBLADE #87 IMAGE/TOP COW
• WIZARD ANIME INVASION #23 WIZARD ENTERTAINMENT
• WIZARD TURNER MILLENIUM HC WIZARD ENTERTAINMENT
• WOLVERINE #30 MARVEL COMICS
• X-MEN KITTY PRYDE SHADOW FLAME #2 MARVEL COMICS
• YOTSUBA TP #2 A. D. VISION

Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

that looks like a pretty pisspoor collection there. maybe i'll buy some music instead

the defenders #1? wtf?

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:57 pm

shiv Wrote:

• ASTONISHING X-MEN #11 MARVEL COMICS
• EX MACHINA #13 DC COMICS
• HELLBOY THE ISLAND #2 DARK HORSE COMICS
• HOUSE OF M #4 MARVEL COMICS
• HULK #84 MARVEL COMICS

These aren't so pisspoor. I'll probably be picking these up eventually.

Astonishing X-Men has gone downhill, but it's still pretty decent. Better than any X-book has been in a long, long time.

I'm not buying all the tie-ins to House of M, but the core book is pretty good so far. Bendis is probably my favorite writer on any superhero title right now. I like New Avengers, too.

The Peter David Hulks have been kinda disappointing, but I'll stick with them for a few more issues, maybe (plus it ties in with House of M). The art has at least been really nice in these (Lee Weeks, then Jae Lee, and then somebody else who seems pretty good).

I need to check out some other B.K. Vaughan books besides Ex Machina. Everyone seems to like Runaways.

The stuff mentioned above plus Shaolin Cowboy and Stray Bullets are about all that I read now. The DC stuff just doesn't interest me at all. All those shake-ups remind me of all the stuff they did 10-15 years ago when I was big into comics: the Death of Superman, Batman's back getting broken, and Green Lantern turning evil. The only one of those that seemed to have any lasting effect was the Green Lantern thing (and that was probably the best story). Plus I thought they finished straightening out all that continuity stuff with Zero Hour. That whole thing seems to be pretty much forgotten, too.

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