Fantasy Football: Playoff Picture + Week 12 Final Report

Sketch · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:47 pm

Alright, a condensed version of the recap as the playoff picture is more important to y'all anyway. Surprising only one match this upcoming week (elephanstoners vs. Mendoza Line) have both teams vying for a playoff position.

In: Rocket Sauce, El Nacho De Muerte, Execute Plan 9
Win and they're in: Schadenfreude, elephanstoners, Andyfest, 3.2% Evil
Need help: Mendoza Line, Greased-Up Deaf Guys, Repeat Offenders
Out: everybody under .500

Schadenfruede needs
Win OR
Mendoza Line/Greased-Up Deaf Guys loss OR
Greased-Up Deaf Guys scoring within 162.84 OR
Mendoza Line scoring within 156.38 OR
3.2% Evil loss + 3.2% Evil scoring within 62.81 OR
Andyfest loss + Andyfest scoring within 34.52 OR
elephanstoners loss + elephantstoners scoring within 16.27

elephantstoners need
Win OR
Greased-Up Deaf Guys loss OR
Mendoza Line scoring within 140.12 OR
Greased-Up Deaf Guys scoring within 146.57 OR
Schadenfreude loss + outscoring Schadenfreude by 16.28 OR
3.2% Evil loss + 3.2% Evil scoring within 46.54 OR
Andyfest loss + Andyfest scoring within 17.91 OR

Andyfests needs
Win OR
Mendoza Line/Greased-Up Deaf Guys loss OR
Mendoza Line scoring within 122.21 OR
Greased-Up Deaf Guys scoring within 128.66 OR
elephantstoners loss + outscoring elephantstoners by 17.92 OR
Schadenfreude loss + outscoring Schadenfreude by 34.53 OR
3.2% Evil loss + 3.2% Evil scoring within 28.63 OR

3.2% Evil needs
Win OR
Mendoza Line/Greased-Up Deaf Guys loss OR
Mendoza Line scoring within 93.57 OR
Greased-Up Deaf Guys scoring within 100.03 OR
Andyfest loss + outscoring Andyfest by 28.64 OR
elephantstoners loss + outscoring elephantstoners by 46.55 OR
Schadenfreude loss + outscoring Schadenfreude by 34.53 OR

Mendoza Line needs
Win + Greased-Up DeafGuys loss OR
Win + Greased-up DeafGuys scoring within 6.45 OR
Greased-up Deaf Guys loss + Greased-up Deaf Guys scoring within 6.45 + Repeat Offenders loss OR
Greased-up Deaf Guys loss + Greased-up Deaf Guys scoring within 6.45 + outscoring Repeat Offenders by 20.72
Win + outscoring elephantstoners by 140.13 OR
Win + 3.2% Evil + outscoring 3.2% Evil by 93.59 OR
Win + Andyfest loss + outscoring Andyfest by 122.22 OR
Win + Schadenfreude loss + outscoring Schadenfreude by 156.40

Greased-Up Deaf Guys need
Win + Mendoza Line loss OR
Win + outscoring Mendoza Line by 6.46 OR
Mendoza Line loss + outscoring Mendoza Line by 6.46 + Repeat Offenders loss OR
Mendoza Line loss + outscoring Mendoza Line by 6.46 + outscoring Repeat Offenders by 27.17
Win + 3.2% Evil + outscoring 3.2% Evil by 100.04 OR
Win + Andyfest loss + outscoring Andyfest by 128.67 OR
Win + elephantstoners loss + outscoring elephantstoners by 146.58 OR
Win + Schadenfreude loss + outscoring Schadenfreude by 162.85

Repeat Offenders need
Win + Mendoza Line loss + Greased-Up Deaf Guys loss + Greased-Up Deaf Guys scoring within 27.16 OR
Win + Mendoza Line loss + Greased-Up Deaf Guys loss + Mendoza Line scoring within 20.71

Onto week 12...
The Mendoza Line 89.93
Knights Who Say Ni 74.50
Mendoza's leading receiver: RB Chris Brown (3 - 105 - 1)
Where has Andre Johnson (Rec: 12 - 159 - 1) been all fucking year?

Greased-up Deaf Guys 98.87
elephantstoners 97.27
Torry Holt (Rec: 10 - 130 - 1) keeps the guys alive.
Carson Palmer (Pass: 302 - 3 TD / 1 INT, Rush: 14 - 0, 2 PT conversion) stays in All Pro form.

Andyfest 67.37
El Nacho de Muerte 108.47
Andyfest from first to sixth. Ouch.
Nacho RBs - Rush: 236 - 2, Rec: 9 - 64... and a fumble

3.2% Evil 102.63
Rex and the Jedi 75.90
L-muthafukkin'-T!!!!!! (Rush: 184 - 3, Rec: 6 - 29)
Arnaz Battle (Rec: 7 - 75 - 1) is back but on the bench.

Execute Plan 9 92.93
timmyjoe42er's 56.27
Ricky Williams (Rush: 82 - 1, Rec: 2 - 13) is just in time for the playoffs.
How much does Timmy hate Peyton Manning? (Pass: 245 - 2 TD / 1 INT)

Max's Silver Hammers 62.37
Gilead Gunslingers 113.07
Tiki Barber (Rush: 151 - 0, Rec: 5 - 27 - ) should not be last place.
Gilead bench - Eli Manning (Pass: 344 - 2 TD / 1 INT) :shock:

Rocket Sauce 144.23
Repeat Offenders 89.37
Rocket Sauce: top of the leader boards & total points. Nice one, buff.
Alge Crumpler (Rec: 7 - 104 - 2) helps Scott keep the necessary point advantage.

The Sunlandic Twins 65.60
Schadenfreude 70.90
Joey Galloway (Rec: 7 - 138 - 0) makes an All-Pro run
C-Man gave up weeks ago and almost won?

The Grape Rush 64.00
Bolsheviks in Space 50.00
Todd Heap (Rec: 6 - 87 - 2) would have gotten Ripple 23 more points
Lambchop... couldn't have won this game.

Sack of Worms 74.03
Lick my Lovepump 104.23
Ryan gets three 20+ performers... and out of the playoffs.
Rudi + Carr = win this game = dignity

Code:

  Rocket Sauce         9-3-0  .750 1200.19 W-9 
  El Nacho de Muerte   9-3-0  .750 1145.76 W-4 
  Execute Plan 9       9-3-0  .750 1111.33 W-2
  Schadenfreude        8-4-0  .667 1167.45 W-5 
  elephantstoners      8-4-0  .667 1151.18 L-3 
  Andyfest             8-4-0  .667 1133.27 L-1 
  3.2% Evil            8-4-0  .667 1104.64 W-1 
  The Mendoza Line     7-5-0  .583 1011.06 W-2 
  Greased-up Deaf Guys 7-5-0  .583 1004.61 W-4
Repeat Offenders     6-6-0  .500 1031.77 L-2 
Lick my Lovepump     5-6-1  .458  884.41 W-1 
Gilead Gunslingers   5-7-0  .417  959.55 W-2 
Rex and the Jedi     5-7-0  .417  958.16 L-3
Knights Who Say Ni   5-7-0  .417  948.84 L-2
The Grape Rush       5-7-0  .417  755.07 W-1
timmyjoe42er's       4-8-0  .333  783.58 L-1 
Bolsheviks in Space  4-8-0  .333  732.07 L-1
Max's Silver Hammers 3-8-1  .292  806.68 L-2 
Sack of Worms        2-10-0 .167  827.52 L-4 
The Sunlandic Twins  2-10-0 .167  773.03 L-6

Week 12 All-Stars
QB: David Carr
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson, Lamont Jordan
WR/TE: Joe Jurevicius, Andre Johnson, Alge Crumpler, Torry Holt
K: Mike Vaderjagt, Rob Bironas
D: Minnesota

Season All-Stars
QB: Carson Palmer
RB: LaDanian Tomlinson, Shaun Alexander
WR: Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Joey Galloway
K: Neil Rackers
D: Chicago

paper · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:50 pm

It's all very clear now...

Spade Kitty · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:49 am **Posts:** 4401

losing Priest killed my chances. You lose a premier back in this league and there's just nobody left. If we're gonna have 20 teams in one league, may I make a suggestion: 1 RB per team!!!

Sketch · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:51 pm

Hey, Green Bay did their best to keep starting halfbacks in the free agnecy pool.

Suggestion is duly noted, though I think it's too much. Might drop a WR slot and change 2nd RB to RB/WR as a compromise.

bitterbuffalo · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:19 pm

Spade Kitty Wrote:

losing Priest killed my chances. You lose a premier back in this league and there's just nobody left. If we're gonna have 20 teams in one league, may I make a suggestion: 1 RB per team!!!

well, actually, I lost my first rounder, Duece M., well before you lost Priest. Maybe if you had a bit more rocket sauce, life would not look so dismal... :wink:

actually what would make the league better is if we had a few less teams (there were plenty of people who just gave up mid year). 12 would be ideal.

nacho · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:32 pm

bitterbuffalo Wrote:

Spade Kitty Wrote:

losing Priest killed my chances. You lose a premier back in this league and there's just nobody left. If we're gonna have 20 teams in one league, may I make a suggestion: 1 RB per team!!!

well, actually, I lost my first rounder, Duece M., well before you lost Priest. Maybe if you had a bit more rocket sauce, life would not look so dismal... :wink:

actually what would make the league better is if we had a few less teams (there were plenty of people who just gave up mid year). 12 would be ideal.

I think in every league, no matter how many teams there are, people give up once they feel they can't win. I've really enjoyed having 20 teams.

My one suggestion would be weekly pickups via a waiver waire, but currently Yahoo doesn't offer that.

timmyjoe42 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:13 pm

I have officially sucked all year. That's the last time I take a QB in the first round.

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

timmysnow42 Wrote:

I have officially sucked all year. That's the last time I take a QB in the first round.

Don't be too hasty. The scoring for QB's in this year's league is just dismal, which is why I didn't draft mine until round 7 or so. I've seen weeks in which a QB here scored 13 points but in my money league scored north of 35.

andyfest · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:33 pm

Yeah, I like having 20 teams because strategy comes into play so much more. Like the idea of one RB or a RB/WR spot though.

Now that all I need is a win to get in I'll probably lose the rest of my games.

timmyjoe42 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:59 pm

Noelzebub Wrote:

timmysnow42 Wrote:

I have officially sucked all year. That's the last time I take a QB in the first round.

Don't be too hasty. The scoring for QB's in this year's league is just dismal, which is why I didn't draft mine until round 7 or so. I've seen weeks in which a QB here scored 13 points but in my money league scored north of 35.

I don't like that the scoring is so low.
Defenses get 0 points if they give up 21? that seems a little low for football.
I don't like how kickers lose points for missing field goals and extra points. Isn't the penalty enough that they don't get anything?
Quarterbacks only get 1 point for every 30 yards? I'd like to see this down to 25 yards.
How come a quarterback only gets 4 points for a passing touchdown? That should be 6.

nacho · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:34 pm

timmysnow42 Wrote:

Noelzebub Wrote:

timmysnow42 Wrote:

I have officially sucked all year. That's the last time I take a QB in the first round.

Don't be too hasty. The scoring for QB's in this year's league is just dismal, which is why I didn't draft mine until round 7 or so. I've seen weeks in which a QB here scored 13 points but in my money league scored north of 35.

I don't like that the scoring is so low.
Defenses get 0 points if they give up 21? that seems a little low for football.
I don't like how kickers lose points for missing field goals and extra points. Isn't the penalty enough that they don't get anything?
Quarterbacks only get 1 point for every 30 yards? I'd like to see this down to 25 yards.
How come a quarterback only gets 4 points for a passing touchdown? That should be 6.

Most QB's throw for at least 20-30 td's per year. Only the very top RB/WR's will score over 10. Therefore, awarding 6 points for a passing td results in marginal QB's scoring more points than top RB's & WR's. Awarding 4 points for passing td's results in the top QB's and top RB's & WR's scoring roughly the same amount of points. I think Sketch did a great job on league scoring.

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

Unit 3021 Wrote:

timmysnow42 Wrote:

Noelzebub Wrote:

timmysnow42 Wrote:

I have officially sucked all year. That's the last time I take a QB in the first round.

Don't be too hasty. The scoring for QB's in this year's league is just dismal, which is why I didn't draft mine until round 7 or so. I've seen weeks in which a QB here scored 13 points but in my money league scored north of 35.

I don't like that the scoring is so low.
Defenses get 0 points if they give up 21? that seems a little low for football.
I don't like how kickers lose points for missing field goals and extra points. Isn't the penalty enough that they don't get anything?
Quarterbacks only get 1 point for every 30 yards? I'd like to see this down to 25 yards.
How come a quarterback only gets 4 points for a passing touchdown? That should be 6.

Most QB's throw for at least 20-30 td's per year. Only the very top RB/WR's will score over 10. Therefore, awarding 6 points for a passing td results in marginal QB's scoring more points than top RB's & WR's. Awarding 4 points for passing td's results in the top QB's and top RB's & WR's scoring roughly the same amount of points. I think Sketch did a great job on league scoring.

I don't disagree, but this scoring scheme is unusual, and probably caught a lot of folks by surprise.

mutty · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:03 pm

Holy crap, did you do this by hand?

The Dreaded Marco · **Posted:** Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:03 pm

For the reasons elucidated by Unit 3021, I don't like 6 point TD pass leagues either---it makes the QB too valuable. Having 3 or 4 point TD passes evens the playing field and makes them about equally valuable as RB and WR.

I agree with bitterbuffalo---limit the league to 12 or 14 owners, and create a second league if more are interested.

Lambchop · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:54 am

given my team, i can't complain about 4 wins.

Sketch · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 7:19 am

Noelzebub Wrote:

This scoring scheme is unusual, and probably caught a lot of folks by surprise.

It was also the exact same scheme as last year. People may not have noticed as much since Peyton and Daunte had two of the best QB fantasy seasons ever in 2004. Even the year before, it was pretty much an even split between QB, RB, and WR among the top 25. This year's QBs have underperformed comparatively due to injuries and the Colts' increased reliance on defense. Who would have predicted Carson Palmer as the best fantasy QB at the start of the season?

About K/D: While most systems (including this one) will award points to skill positions for mediocrity, I'd prefer to reward special teams for excellence and accuracy. Kickers are expected to make extra points and field goals under 40 yards just as QBs are expected to not throw interceptions and ball carriers are expected to hold onto the ball. Barring an amazing offense, teams with defenses giving up more than 21 points every week don't win very often.

Would prefer a 20-team league and tweak it rather than two smaller leagues. Open to 14-team leagues assuming the following: 1) someone else is willing to run the second (just feel like a cheeseball doing both... especially with prizes involved), and 2) We expand the starting rosters accordingly: 2 QB, 2 RB, 1 RB/WR, 4 WR, 1 WR/TE, or something to that effect.

Max: did it by Excel. Thanks for asking.

mutty · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:56 am

I can't get in to the league page this morning... Anyone else having this problem?

Sketch · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:09 am

I am. Will send a note.

"Week 41 of 41"

I think something is amiss.

nacho · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:01 am

Max Presents Wrote:

I can't get in to the league page this morning... Anyone else having this problem?

same here.

e-stone · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:37 pm

elephantstoners on a bit of a slide since the coach took a vacation!

it's rough business losing by 1.6 points.

paper · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 2:44 pm

elephantstone Wrote:

elephantstoners on a bit of a slide since the coach took a vacation!

it's rough business losing by 1.6 points.

oh man, I was watching Monday night, and as the Colts were running out the clock with James, he was inching closer and closer to beating me, if he had gotten in the endzone, I was done, as it tuned out he came up 1.7 shy.

timmyjoe42 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:00 pm

Unit 3021 Wrote:

timmysnow42 Wrote:

Noelzebub Wrote:

timmysnow42 Wrote:

I have officially sucked all year. That's the last time I take a QB in the first round.

Don't be too hasty. The scoring for QB's in this year's league is just dismal, which is why I didn't draft mine until round 7 or so. I've seen weeks in which a QB here scored 13 points but in my money league scored north of 35.

I don't like that the scoring is so low.
Defenses get 0 points if they give up 21? that seems a little low for football.
I don't like how kickers lose points for missing field goals and extra points. Isn't the penalty enough that they don't get anything?
Quarterbacks only get 1 point for every 30 yards? I'd like to see this down to 25 yards.
How come a quarterback only gets 4 points for a passing touchdown? That should be 6.

Most QB's throw for at least 20-30 td's per year. Only the very top RB/WR's will score over 10. Therefore, awarding 6 points for a passing td results in marginal QB's scoring more points than top RB's & WR's. Awarding 4 points for passing td's results in the top QB's and top RB's & WR's scoring roughly the same amount of points. I think Sketch did a great job on league scoring.

I disagree because even though QB's may throw more td's they get less points for yardage than receivers and running backs.
In my other league, they give the point scenario that I described, and the running backs are stil more valuable than the QB's in terms of total points. I think the quality of good players should be even. Why should RB's be what determines whether a team is good? WR's score way less points than RB's and QB's. TE's score less than kickers and DST.

Sketch · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:03 pm

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Zorak Wrote:

This is lame-ass.

Sketch · **Posted:** Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:13 pm

timmysnow42 Wrote:

I disagree because even though QB's may throw more td's they get less points for yardage than receivers and running backs. In my other league, they give the point scenario that I described, and the running backs are stil more valuable than the QB's in terms of total points.

...because it's been a weak year for QBs. In terms of yards, the general marker for a good game is 100 for WR/RB and 250-300 for QB. Points should be done accordingly. Your team's failure has nothing to do with the scoring system; it has everything to do with Peyton Manning not performing to expectations.

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I think the quality of good players should be even.

I agree. Most years, our point system will give a pretty even spread across QB/RB/WR.

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WR's score way less points than RB's and QB's.

Unless you award points for receptions, which this league does. It means receiving backs get a boost sure, but it evens the playing field in general.

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TE's score less than kickers and DST.

It's still worth putting in a TE slot (flex at the very least), so somebody can play Gates, Gonzo, Crumpler, and Heap.

Sketch · **Posted:** Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:41 am

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