Yail Bloor Wrote:
Vic Da Baron LooGAR Wrote:
Of course, unless Healthcare costs go down drastically for a majority of Americans, and access is improved for the 50-60 million without coverage, it will be an albatross on the Dems akin to Watergate on Repubs for the foreseeable future:
http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/11 ... ses-rates/Quote:
This was, of course, one of the initial hazards of taking on health care reform: Now Obama owns the entire system in the public's mind, even if they don't understand it
This is the truth and I and I'm sure you have already anecdotally heard ALL about it from folks. I know I have an I'm in contact with roughly 1% of the people you are.
(I'd point out that Watergate was really only an albatross on the GOP for about four years but I'm just a dummy)
Well, I think that if it really reduces the deficit, and people start to see benefits, they can actually take some credit for some shit in the next couple of years, ya know?
The deal with HCR isn't so much about healthcare, it just became this sort of prizm through which all problems could be projected. So, if you hate the deficit, you hate healthcare. If you hate entitlements, you hate healthcare, etc. And there was no good answer -- especially for Dems where we come from.
This is an email between me and another guy (I won't tell you what he does for a living, because I don't want to offend your sensibilities, but suffice to say he's not a storage consultant).
LooGAR Wrote:
The fact that they spent a year and a half on healthcare instead of constantly talking jobs is exactly what Jerry Nadler said it was: malpractice.
And then dummies like Bright and Gene Taylor and Spratt and Marshall thought they could fly under the radar. They shoulda cut a deal to not vote for Nancy Pelosi in the first place - even if it was only for Kabuki aspects. And, Blue Dogs should have gone nuts on healthcare, holding press conferences daily against it, they should have insisted that the tax cuts in the stimulus were "decoupled" and passed as it's own tax cut, and insisted the Bush cuts be extended, and let the Senate gut the 250k+ cuts. And the stimulus should have been referred to as "job creation" and instead of the amount of money, they should have gone around talking about the # of jobs. But instead, they did basically nothing but vote against legislation that their party passed - making them look like the ineffectual dweebs and fake tough guys that they are.
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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.
FT Wrote:
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