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 Post subject: I HATE Illinois Nazis!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:43 pm 
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This son of a bitch is running for Congress in MY fucking district!
http://oaklawn.patch.com/articles/repub ... happened#c
Tell it to my cousin's father-in-law... the one with the numbers tattooed on his arm.
Motherfucker.

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 Post subject: Re: I HATE Illinois Nazis!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:52 pm 
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Well I guess it makes his opponent's campaign pretty easy.

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'family-friendly, neo-Nazi events'


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 Post subject: Re: I HATE Illinois Nazis!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:12 pm 
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he's also dead wrong. the holocaust is not the 'blackest lie in history'.

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"organizes family-friendly, neo-Nazi events around Adolf Hitler’s birthday"

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 Post subject: Re: I HATE Illinois Nazis!
PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:27 pm 
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Only Illinois Nazis?

Attn Wisconsin Nazis - you have Todd's approval.


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 Post subject: Re: I HATE Illinois Nazis!
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Always better to have these types of people out in the open, to give them a platform, to have their picture in the newspaper. I don't have a lot of faith in electorates but I'm pretty sure he won't win any elections, or even come close.

But I'd also contest that he's actually a Nazi since he denies one of the fundamental precepts of Nazism - the extermination of the Jews. It's a bit like someone claiming to be a Christian but denying the existence of Jesus.

What he and his type are really are a sort of wide eyed innocent, albeit of an unsettling variety.

Ignorant, yes, narrow minded, yes, bigoted, yes, but the overriding flaw in the holocaust denier is a unworldly naivety towards the evil that lies dormant in every human being; the failure to realize, the lack of intellect to deduce that petty minded bigotry, irrational opinions, stupid beliefs, an unwavering propensity to disconnect from reality, an unfettered belief in utopia and the creation of scapegoats to thwart the idiots daydream, all that lead to industrialized murder at the end of a hundred rail lines. Hitler, on the other hand, knew exactly where it led.

I remember some years ago a British documentary taking two holocaust denying skinhead 'neo-Nazis' to Auschwitz. They were both full of bluster and confidence in their nasty little world view until reality hit them smack in the face when they visited the death camp. Both wept.

Arthur Jones may be an ignoramus, a dim wit, a dunce, a simpleton, an anti-Semite and generally a pathetic little man but he's not a Nazi, even if that's what he imagines himself to be.

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 Post subject: Re: I HATE Illinois Nazis!
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I will say that no matter what your starting position on the holocaust, seeing a place like Dachau in person (in my case) will scar you forever. I'm sure Auschwitz and the others are the same. That shit will stop you in your tracks and hit some sort of Reset button you didn't know you had.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I will say that no matter what your starting position on the holocaust, seeing a place like Dachau in person (in my case) will scar you forever. I'm sure Auschwitz and the others are the same. That shit will stop you in your tracks and hit some sort of Reset button you didn't know you had.


Yeah, I went to the Holocaust Museum long before I took my trip to Auschwitz-Birkenau and a few other Holocaust related sites in Europe.

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 Post subject: Re: I HATE Illinois Nazis!
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Evil Dr. K Wrote:
But I'd also contest that he's actually a Nazi since he denies one of the fundamental precepts of Nazism - the extermination of the Jews. It's a bit like someone claiming to be a Christian but denying the existence of Jesus.


that's an interesting thought.

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 Post subject: Re: I HATE Illinois Nazis!
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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I will say that no matter what your starting position on the holocaust, seeing a place like Dachau in person (in my case) will scar you forever. I'm sure Auschwitz and the others are the same. That shit will stop you in your tracks and hit some sort of Reset button you didn't know you had.


Yeah, I went to the Holocaust Museum long before I took my trip to Auschwitz-Birkenau and a few other Holocaust related sites in Europe.


True story- The only concentration camp in Italy was in my grandmother's hometown. During WWII, she would smell the awful smells and ask her mom what it was. Her mom responded, "they're making soap." It wasn't till my grandmother was an adult that she learned the smell was actually the burning of jews. I got the chance to visit it as it's now a museum. I think it's called the "riseri." The depth of depravation still palpable is not comprehensible until you see it.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I will say that no matter what your starting position on the holocaust, seeing a place like Dachau in person (in my case) will scar you forever.

This. Visited Dachau in 1992.


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You get off the train in Dachau and there's no signs to the memorial site. At least we couldn't find any. You just sorta follow everyone else, and everyone walks to it. Must suck to live there, trying Not to think about it or be known exclusively for it. "Hey why don't you come over for dinner after work." Cool, where do you live? "Dachau." oh... ok... I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: I HATE Illinois Nazis!
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I remember some years ago a British documentary taking two holocaust denying skinhead 'neo-Nazis' to Auschwitz. They were both full of bluster and confidence in their nasty little world view until reality hit them smack in the face when they visited the death camp. Both wept.


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