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I'm am dying to see this. Anyone else amped? :cheers:


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I bet Promethium is amped.

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I bet Promethium is amped.


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I didn't even know it was suppose to be an Alien prequel, and I am still waiting to see Moonrise Kingdom in the near future.
I'm out of the loop when it comes to mainstream Cinema or going to movies. All my extra money this summer goes to making beer, a few concerts and a weekend trek to South Dakota to visit friends from my undergrad days.
It looks pretty cool and Michael Fassbender is a creepy android in those viral trailers.

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It was great.

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the review are in!

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Really wanna see it but waiting until the crowds die down a bit.


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i really liked it. i tried to stay away from a lot of the previews and other viral videos (though i did watch the one with fassbender), so i didn't know too much about it going in and was way impressed with the way it looked and where it went.


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i'm probably going to go see it monday. i've been more excited for this more than any other movie this summer outside of the dark knight rises.

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That was an amazing movie. Definitely set up for a sequel. I'd say the best movie for me in years.


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Really liked the set up, the visuals, the basic premise, etc, but was bit disappointed in the movie by the end. I think it was good, but I felt like it could have been better.


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Ok, can finally open this thread without worry of spoiling something.

My wife and I really loved it. I'd place Alien/Aliens in my top 10 favorite movies OAT, so this was definitely something that I had been fawning over, without getting too much into the viral stuff. As soon as I saw the first photos/stills from production, I knew it was going to be great. Seems like an odd thing to say, but from what I saw the integrity of the original films were being honored, while at the same time creating an atmosphere of its own.

I've heard a lot of people say that Prometheus is grudgingly slow, but I actually enjoyed the pace. And, in fact that was one of the things that made the first 2 films awesome. You'd have a few moments of incredible action/fright and then the rest of the time you're literally sitting on the edge of your seat waiting for things to happen. And, in Prometheus there was enough up and downs in story to really get you on the edge. I knew there wasn't going to be the same style of frights (which is another complaint), but it still kept me psychologically on edge.

The other great thing was, even though this was a called out prequel, there are too many similarities for the Alien franchise to not be attached. But, because it wasn't a direct hit into Alien--you had the joy of really wallowing in some fantastic mythology building, which I think the writers did expertly. There's just enough, a taste really, of what is found in Alien/Aliens that you know there has to be a connection, but that its free to find its own way.

Acting-wise, Micheal Fassbinder was excellent. The rest? They were serviceable. Making Naomi Rapace into a Ripley type character--it didn't work, at least for me. I just couldn't see her outside of her TGWADT persona. My wife, however, hasn't seen those films so thought she was great. Idris Elba is always charismatic on screen, and its cool to see him taking these sci-fi roles. Between Thor, this, and the upcoming Pacific Rim, he's becoming a viable sci-fi dude.

And, as someone who's a Christian I also appreciated and dug how they dealt with the whole (and potentially sticky situation) idea of faith. Much like Contact, they tie things just enough back to leave open all types of ideas.

Overall, I was really pleased. I hope this gets a great BR release with all types of extras. I'd love to hear Mr. Scott explain how this doesn't fit into the Alien mythology :)

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And, as someone who's a Christian I also appreciated and dug how they dealt with the whole (and potentially sticky situation) idea of faith. Much like Contact, they tie things just enough back to leave open all types of ideas.

i did not expect the christianity element to be quite so heavy-handed. i didn't have a problem with it, though. between numerous sacrifices (engineer in the introduction, holloway at the ship's entrance with a nod to prometheus giving fire to humanity, the pilot and co-pilots near the end, etc.), shaw's need for her cross and the time frame being between christmas and new year's, they really pushed that to where i could see non-christians rolling their eyes a bit.


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im sorry guys this film is terrible. visually appealling, nice in 3d but so unbelievably spoon fed and no real "tension" of paranoia or claustrophobia which was what made the original so great. there are no plot twists and no character development. fassbender is great but hes a great actor, everything is just very trite and contrived, no real depth to this movie.

snow white & the huntsman, which i saw with the lady, begrudgingly, was a better movie


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And, as someone who's a Christian I also appreciated and dug how they dealt with the whole (and potentially sticky situation) idea of faith. Much like Contact, they tie things just enough back to leave open all types of ideas.

i did not expect the christianity element to be quite so heavy-handed. i didn't have a problem with it, though. between numerous sacrifices (engineer in the introduction, holloway at the ship's entrance with a nod to prometheus giving fire to humanity, the pilot and co-pilots near the end, etc.), shaw's need for her cross and the time frame being between christmas and new year's, they really pushed that to where i could see non-christians rolling their eyes a bit.


I read this not too long ago and I guess this was one of the directions they were thinking of going:

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Movies.com: We had heard it was scripted that the Engineers were targeting our planet for destruction because we had crucified one of their representatives, and that Jesus Christ might have been an alien. Was that ever considered?

Ridley Scott: We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose. But if you look at it as an “our children are misbehaving down there” scenario, there are moments where it looks like we’ve gone out of control, running around with armor and skirts, which of course would be the Roman Empire. And they were given a long run. A thousand years before their disintegration actually started to happen. And you can say, "Let's send down one more of our emissaries to see if he can stop it." Guess what? They crucified him.

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im sorry guys this film is terrible. visually appealling, nice in 3d but so unbelievably spoon fed and no real "tension" of paranoia or claustrophobia which was what made the original so great. there are no plot twists and no character development. fassbender is great but hes a great actor, everything is just very trite and contrived, no real depth to this movie.

i've been hearing this a lot from sci-fi nerds and alien franchise superfans. i'm neither, so i liked it. i guess middling expectations helped.

i thought the captain had some nice character development from a mercenary to actually caring about what happened and doing something about it.


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i've been hearing this a lot from sci-fi nerds and alien franchise superfans. i'm neither, so i liked it. i guess middling expectations helped.

i thought the captain had some nice character development from a mercenary to actually caring about what happened and doing something about it.


All of this.
Also, not being a Christian, and not being as familiar with Christian imagery as a lot of you, I don't think that I found it quite as heavy-handed as many of you. I mean, I got a lot of it and I can see your point. But, as a Jew, I think that I needed some of that sledgehammer execution to drive home some of those messages/metaphors.
Yeah, I dug it. And so did my 12-year-old.

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im sorry guys this film is terrible. visually appealling, nice in 3d but so unbelievably spoon fed and no real "tension" of paranoia or claustrophobia which was what made the original so great. there are no plot twists and no character development. fassbender is great but hes a great actor, everything is just very trite and contrived, no real depth to this movie.

i've been hearing this a lot from sci-fi nerds and alien franchise superfans. i'm neither, so i liked it. i guess middling expectations helped.

i thought the captain had some nice character development from a mercenary to actually caring about what happened and doing something about it.


when did you think he was a mercenary? when was he ever anything but "the black guy" with tepid sexual energy who put up the christmas tree? i mean there was absolutely no character development in this film. everybody is exactly who they appear to be, there are zero surprises...again, gorgeous film, but if you are expecting anything approaching alien or aliens (and i am not a sci-fi guy) then prepare to be disappointed. How is this movie different from Transformers?


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Yeah, I guess I wouldn't call him a "mercenary" so much as just a workman: and employee doing a job.
What's the difference? I think that it's the whole bloodlust thing. Loyalty?
But I do think that there was a subtle shift in his attitude at the end of the movie. Yes, I do.

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Saw this last night in IMAX 3D. If you're going to commit 2-and-a-half hours or your time and any of your money to seeing this, you might as well get the full experience.

It's visually excellent. Every single visual aspect of this movie was perfect except for one thing: Guy Pearce made up to look like an extremely old man. I cannot figure that one out.

There was a lot of this move that I couldn't figure out but not because it was confusing or convoluted or overly dense or anything like that. There were just some perplexing choices made in terms of character behavior and motivations and the general underlying themes. It was weirdly anti-science for a sci-fi movie. A lot of vague pseudo-spirituality which I guess can probably be blamed on Lindelof. The moral of this movie seemed to be that evolution is bullshit AND there is no god. I mean, I realize it's just fleshing out and further building up a make-believe universe, and reading too much into it is silly. It just struck a really strange tone, and it sort of seemed to be inviting analysis of those pseudo-religious themes and ham-fisted "big questions" when it really shouldn't.

I had a good time, though. A movie like this doesn't need character development (sorry, but I don't think about Alien or Aliens in terms of their character arcs), and I thought there was enough suspense and momentum to carry it through. I was a little detached from the fate of the characters, sure, but I also found several of them plenty likable. Fassbender was excellent, as everyone has said, and I found myself kind of rooting for him to keep things interesting, which he did. (Like it almost felt like the audience should want him to cause trouble and be a dick, just to make something happen.) Idris Elba was great, but his character was almost sadly stereotypical. I actually really liked Charlize Theron in this, too.

Full of flaws, but worth seeing for the visuals, Fassbender, and the connections with the Aliens movies.


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Ha ha - that's awesome.

The Lindelof M.O. seems to be to pile a bunch of non sequiturs on top of each other and then toss in some lame christian symbolism as an "explanation." I guess it's not a bad strategy, because christians by definition are obviously far too dumb to actually ask questions.


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Ha ha - that's awesome.

The Lindelof M.O. seems to be to pile a bunch of non sequiturs on top of each other and then toss in some lame christian symbolism as an "explanation." I guess it's not a bad strategy, because christians by definition are obviously far too dumb to actually ask questions.


Yep. Case & point = 'Lost'

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I guess it's not a bad strategy, because christians by definition are obviously far too dumb to actually ask questions.


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im sorry guys this film is terrible. visually appealling, nice in 3d but so unbelievably spoon fed and no real "tension" of paranoia or claustrophobia which was what made the original so great. there are no plot twists and no character development. fassbender is great but hes a great actor, everything is just very trite and contrived, no real depth to this movie.

snow white & the huntsman, which i saw with the lady, begrudgingly, was a better movie


you're making the mistake of linking it too closely to alien. this is a different type of film entirely, and was not a pure sense of dread horror flick. i thought the movie was excellent and am scouring the prometheus boards to discuss all of the various theories and thoughts about the movie. if you were hoping for a clone of alien, this definitely wasn't it, but was better in many ways for me at least.


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